The Lost Episode Attenborough Park Unusual Buildings Completely Necessary Warnings They're so wonderfully ill-informed. Hello, welcome to wonderfully ill-informed, the podcast where we convert interesting, funny or informative things from our week into quotes, put them into the randomizer and take our best shot at guessing what they're about and then jump into discussion. This week we have a guest and that is Mr. Brandon Ruble. Say hello, Brandon. Hello, Brandon. Join us for some rather unpredictable chats on wonderfully ill-informed. I'm Tom. I'm Ben. And I'm Mark, the one that always asks questions. In honor of our American correspondent joining us today, I thought I'd delve into our history as a group a little bit. So what is the funniest or stupidest story that you can think of involving someone else within this video or within the podcast today? know where Brandon's brain's going. Let's keep that one out of the Home entry. I have to think about this for a minute. Yeah, that's a really difficult one, Mark. That was a good night though. I remember, yeah, we got really drunk coming back from a party once and we were walking back and we were just causing havoc. And I remember one of the funny things, there's lots of things that happened that night, which we won't disclose, but one of the funny things that happened, which I thought was hilarious, was that we walked past this kind of rich person's garden and they had these two deer, like lovely Christmas deer. And we climbed the fence and just made them fuck each other. It was perfect. Yeah, one of them was like standing erect and the other one had its head down like it was eating the grass. So we put that one up on the top and it proper looked like it. And as you can see, it was just these two lit up deer in this big, vast, dark yard that were mounting each other. Yeah, that was an epic night. I think that also involved some traffic redirection as well. It did, yeah. mate. It got progressively... More yeah more naughty. It was very naughty. It was a very naughty evening. Tap tap shame on you guys. Anyway moving on this is all very incriminating. Yeah. Yeah, it was that that one was very incorrect. I think we've probably passed the statute of limitations. I don't think anyone you never know there have been somebody that's been out there searching for us for like the last 10 years. They're still stuck at that junction that we blocked off. They've been hot on our trail, but we've stayed one step ahead. We're just young and dumb. Yeah, that's why I left the county. I was just like I'm off. You got any stories Ben? See, you may not, again this may not be one that you'll want to be in there Mark, but I remember when we were in I think Harlow. yes. And you took some person back in your car and you went the wrong way round a roundabout. Yeah, that's one way to impress a girl. She was probably like 10 years our junior. That was why I was giving her a lift home because she'd stuck around to talk to the band. He didn't actually make it around the roundabout. He just kind of started to go and then went, and swerved off. It was pretty scary. Yeah, was Brandon came in the car with me, didn't you? And it was us and this young lady who were, I was like, yeah, I just felt really bad because she'd stuck around to talk to us. And I was like, she was about to walk home through Harlow on her own. was like, it's fine. I'll take you back. She's like, he's not far. I was like, even more reason. I'll just happily do that. And then, yeah, procedures turn. right onto a roundabout. She said turn right at the roundabout and I'm a very literal man. I remember Mark once when I was drunk I thought that I thought that elephants were called Milo's. Yes I remember that. Literally like I scared the shit out of myself that night because I was thinking in my head I'm picturing an elephant like what an elephant looks like and I'm staring at Mark going You know Milo's. Because you were looking at me like I was crazy. And Mark was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Fucking Milo's dude, they're an animal. They like live in Africa and shit. The inspiration for this was I had one, particularly about myself and Brandon. I'm not sure if Brandon will remember. I'm sure you will remember because it was pretty, it wasn't quite traumatic, but it was a long night. Getting stuck in London. I remember it vividly. Yeah. And we... Am I right in thinking? Did we think we were going to an after party for Cohed and Cambria? We did. Because we bumped into someone who was a friend of... Or a fan of the band... Of our band at the time at the gig, didn't we? It was a German girl called Nikki. No, no, I remember our friend Azzolvini was there. And she got stuck. She had a flight the next morning and got stuck. She missed her last train. Yeah. So I had like a bit of cash. I think I used like my last bit of cash to get her a taxi to get back to her hotel. Yeah, but by that point we had missed all the undergrounds and decided to walk from Kensington back to Tower Hill over the course of the night. We arrived in the morning. It was it yeah, and we got the first train out of London back to to where you live Didn't wait to get home. That's one of them nights where you're just like this is so long like all you want is your bed and you're just like this is long as fuck. It was actually pretty fun I think we were like kind of drunk. We were drunk enough to where it was more of an adventure than that. Yeah, we made it fun. It was good. Welcome one and all to the first guest episode of Wonderfully Ill-Informed. I'll be keeping as quiet as I can, partially because I was told to by our hosts, but mostly so that I can run some background checks and remove any lingering issues from their criminal records. It's real life Jurassic Park. It's gonna be starting off on Brandon Ruble. my word. Okay. Now we have talked about Jurassic Park stuff, haven't we? Yeah, I can't remember what that was. I'm trying to think what they were. It was the sound effects for the T-Rex that we talked about in Jurassic Park. stupid humans. This never actually made it into an episode. Did it not? Nope, it did not. Here is a short clip. of what you are talking about, So that is, you know, you can already hear T-Rex in that. Do you know what that also sounds like? Which isn't very pleasant. It sounds like someone with really, really bad diarrhea in a toilet bowl. It does. Yeah. So true. It sounds like, There you go. And now if we looked up how they made the pooping noises in Dumb and Dumber, I'm sure it would tell us that it was an alligator gargling. Exactly, yeah. Koala bears make this deep growl that we use for the T-Rex. I had no idea that koala bears sounded like that. How insane is that? That's cool. That's generous. We've also talked about animal cloning. Yes. Yeah. So is it to do with mammoths? It is actually something to do with mammoths, I think we may have discussed this previously, but whether or not it's ever made it to the podcast is another question entirely. Let's have a look. So I wanted to talk to you about this cloning and the rewilding and the mammoths and all that stuff. I'm going to Colossal tomorrow to learn a little bit more about it Colossal. Yeah, so Colossal Biosciences is this, if you ask me, incredible company, and they are, by their own declaration, a de-extinction company. Wait, this Colossal, you did Colossal? Yeah, I brought this to the podcast. This was one thing I brought. And they've come together and raised a ton of money, and they are de-extincting animals. And the science is there. Like, it's done. All it took was the money, basically, behind it. And they've put together this incredible Rolodex of scientists and people, and it's... It's real life Jurassic Park with purpose. don't know. I don't think it ever made it to the podcast where we talked about this. Was it the boring? It was the episode where we were all bored. Not bored, but like we were like... I think it's that, yeah, the dry episode. It was the episode where we were really tired. So we weren't that energetic when we were... It was the two companies, was Rewild and Colossal have teamed up. Hang on. It was welcome to Attenborough Park. It did not make it. We're perfectly safe then, boys. Is it the white bearded man from Jurassic Park that died? Richard Attenborough? Yeah. Do you think that someone undeaded a mammoth and he then sat on David Attenborough's brother? No, actually there's a mammoth walking around doing a TV show to other mammoths and he's got a big stick and then a big bit of amber on top of it with that guy's toenail in it. I'm going to bring back Richard Attenborough. I somehow think that movie wouldn't be quite as successful. Just loads of little like raptor sized Richard Attenborough's running around murdering everyone. Welcome to my island! So consider we've covered it, maybe we could twist it and say what animal would we want to re-unextinct, if that makes sense. What do you mean, out of all the animals through time? Yeah. I mean, probably not a dinosaur. That's kind of scary. Yeah, Definitely not a dinosaur. Yeah, I mean, I'd love to see one of those, obviously like an, well, I think it's an aerodactyl, but wasn't there like some other bird that was like- An aerodactyl is a Pokemon. A pterodactyl. You know what mean. We should bring back those Charizards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want a squirrel, bro. You know what I mean. That's genuinely, I genuinely for a moment there thought it was called an aerodactyl. But you know what I mean. Pterodactyl. That's great. But again, I think they'd be pretty dangerous. Those things were massive. Wasn't there a bigger thing than that though, in terms of a fly in prehistoric? I'm pretty sure there was a big bigger bird and it was like a fucking like the size of a bloody plane Yeah, yeah, there's definitely something bigger than a pterodactyl I think they were quite similar to pterodactyls as well, but but even bigger Tom's thinking about the Thunderbird, which is a mythical creature. Yeah. Well, allegedly it is mythical Who knows? I've seen a photo of a man standing next to a Thunderbird, but how convincing it was Yeah, I've seen a lots of photos of lots of men standing against lots of stuff. And some of it was was not on Pornhub. Well, it's all like a megalodon or some shit like that. megalodon was a big shark. Yeah, but I know it's a big shark. I know that but I'm saying that'd be sick. Well, it be sick to be in the sea with it, but it'd be crazy to see a fish on that scale. Yeah. I mean, the dodo was hunted to extinction. And I'm not a meat eater, but the dodo was hunted to extinction because it was so tasty. So. And it was stupid. It was too stupid to run away. Yeah, yeah. I think it wasn't necessarily stupid as much as it lived on a island or a series of islands that there was no predator above it. So it wasn't exactly getting picked off. it was just like humans. was like, hi. Was it that it was delicious though? Because when you think of delicious animals, I think of the... Is it giant tortoise? Those are meant to be like really fucking delicious? They look so yummy. You know the ones that are on the Galapagos? Those are meant to be really tasty and that's why they're endangered or something now. Really? Jesus. Am I making that up? Are they really tasty or are they just really tasty after you've been marooned at sea for the last six months? I've just typed in, are giant tortoises and it's auto-filled delicious? Wow. Let's see if I'm right. out. Fair play. Alright. news to me. Yes, giant tortoises are considered delicious by some. Well that's according to Google so it's legit. Yeah, yeah means it's real. well I'm sorry that my clip has already been covered that kind of sucks. That's okay. To be fair to you even if you'd have listened to all the podcasts you still wouldn't have known because we didn't. No it didn't actually make it in. It lives upon the cutting Well then we can still do it right? Well we just we just did it. Okay good. Well, listeners, I think we may have discovered the first issue with having guests on this podcast. But honestly, for those smooth, sultry American tones, I think it was worth me scratching around on the cutting room floor. What happens if you flip a skyscraper? this got anything to do with, crap, can't remember what it's called, that place in China? do mean by flip? Like sell, then you get rich. yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, like buying a derelict one. It's not that, no, sorry, I didn't actually hear what anybody else said apart from Brian. I said 9-11, that's what I thought. You're fucking out! Never forget, never forget, Tom. We've got an American on the podcast. I think I might know what it is. It's not to do with that concept where they wanted to like hang like a skyscraper from like the orbit downwards and then it just floats around the earth the whole time. Is this a concept? I'm not aware of that. Literally, it's a New York City architecture firm has plans to construct a massive hanging skyscraper tethered to an asteroid. What? To an asteroid? Yeah, apparently so. There's a video... Who's going to go up there and connect it? I don't know the ins outs of it, but there's a video presentation of the structure hanging from the space object through extension cords. There's loads of videos on it. It's not obviously a real thing, but I don't know, think it's a concept that some architect... When you said extension cords, I thought of like a multi-plug. Just hanging off Just like a chain of them that... Yeah. The thing is, the only problem is, like, one, how do you like, say you work there, how do you get to it? Two, like, if you're on it and it's like all but in the earth, you kind of have, things have to align. Do know what I mean? You might be home time and you're like, fuck, I'm, I'm like in I just missed my stop. I mean, in Denmark, I need to get off in New York. know what mean? Well, yes, we're over Brazil. Yeah. Like it's going to be another 24 hours before... Yeah. So yeah, it sounds pretty, yeah, pretty crazy. Anyway, we should probably probably should actually look at your actual. So if you flip a skyscraper, you get a depth scraper. Is it going to go down into the sea? Not into the sea. This goes down into the earth. So they dig a huge or you could use a preexisting sinkhole and then essentially build a skyscraper on the inside of the sinkhole. What happens if you flip a skyscraper? This is one of the earliest. Earth scraper proposals from Japan, a 35-story cylindrical structure designed to survive earthquakes. And this proposal for Mexico City Square was a solution to some of the height restrictions and space limitations of that area. None of these ever got built, but they do pose an interesting solution for a sustainable subterranean community. They all have one thing in common. They're centered around an open core. And what you get is this, even hundreds of feet into the ground. You can still see how windows capture the essence of daylight. Even the artificial lighting is designed to mimic daylight. But yeah, the concept, I just thought the concept was really interesting. Real quick, there's, I stuck a link on the chat. Bring that up real quick, because it's quite interesting. I see where this is, Brandon. Dereku Rekuyu, yeah. This is something that I've brought to an early record that hasn't made it onto the podcast. Is this the one that, I'm pretty sure the guy found it, he was renovating his basement and he went through a wall. Yeah, there was a tunnel and he was like wonder where this leads and it led to a complex. It's almost like an ant colony, isn't it? The way there's all these multiple chambers. Yeah, but it's been used by multiple cultures throughout many, many years, to the point where people don't know.% was used during the Younger Dryas period to survive the cataclysms of the Younger Dryas. Definitely. Makes a lot of sense. That's one of those theories. It's also in Turkey, which is where Gobekli Tepe is. that's another interesting site. For those listeners who haven't heard of Gobekli Tepe, the site is a series of Neolithic stone megaliths somewhat similar to Stonehenge, but with many intricate carvings all over them. The site has been subject to a lot of controversy, particularly between mainstream archaeologists and ancient alien theorists. I saw, what did I see about Glebecle Tepe every day? Apparently they've only excavated like 5 % of Glebecle Tepe, which is crazy. But also, it's recently been taken over by like some big company and they're doing tourism things there now, which is cool because if you want to go see it, but they're more interested in making money off of it than actually continuing to investigate. They stopped and they said they're gonna quote leave it for other generations to discover. Yeah, that's exactly yeah, that's what they said, which is And also they've which is really weird. They've planted trees over certain parts of the actual excavation, right? So there's like buried walls and they've planted trees on top of them, which is really strange They reckon it would it would take about a hundred years to fully excavate as doing it like as they are now, which is yeah silly because there could be so much more important information on other pillars that tell us stuff about our past, which is bullshit. And it was purposely buried as well, which is crazy. That's quite common. Like a lot of cultures, if a culture takes over an area, often they'll lay complete waste to that place. There's a difference between burning it and taking hundreds of thousands of man hours to bury it. Yeah, well, I don't know. Well if it's old enough it might have been buried naturally. Yeah, flood! Possibly. Mud flood conspiracies! Mud flood conspiracies! Humans, I hope that you enjoyed those architectural and archaeological revelations. As an entity living in a nondescript void and born less than a year ago, I cannot appreciate buildings or history. But let us be fair, this show is not about me. Moving on. Nintendo says not to let your blank. Blank on your Switch. Don't let your cock. Cheers on your Switch. Not a million miles away. okay. Don't let your wang come on your Switch. Don't let your child pee on your Switch. You're basically right, Brandon. Is it poop instead of pee? No, it's pet instead of child. Don't let your dog shit on your Switch. So Nintendo's customer services for Nintendo of Japan put out a tweet. And bear in mind this is translated from Japanese, so it could be slightly lost in translation. But the tweet said, If you take your eyes off it, your Nintendo Switch will become a pet's toy. By the time you notice, it's already sticky withdrawal. Pet saliva and urine can cause damage to the console due to water damage. If you have pets, be sure to be careful about where you place your Switch. So on an official thing they put out a thing saying don't let your animals piss on your console, that's a bad thing. I mean, I'm sure there's a reason. Yeah, who sued them? Someone's definitely sued them for having their dog piss on the thing and now they're like, we'll cover that. Or returned it and their refurbishment department is just full of piss stained switches. People are like, it just stopped working. Yeah, I don't know why. It was fine. I think it's actually a thing in Japan where, you know, like in America, they have to be like... on hot coffee it has to say, caution, hot, may burn you, and like every warning has to be put on it. I think that type of thing has been, it's much, much more done in Japan. So it's probably stemming from that. Okay. Well, I feel like this is a slippery road to go down when you start making things so specific, because the list is just going to keep growing. Nick said, just don't let anything pee on your switch. Yeah. Keep your Switch above the height of a pet. Eventually you're just going to have to like literally list everything. Don't drop beans on your console. Don't drop... Just like you just is endless. Don't get in the bath with this toaster. Don't cut your melon over your console. Have you been cutting melons today Tom? Yes, eat them regularly. It's a tasty watermelon treat. And my Switch is absolutely drenched. In sticky watermelon juice. I must sue Nint- note to self, sue Nintendo. Yes, this is Nintendo's fault, because they didn't tell me not to do this. I'm sorry everyone. Seems that having a guest has not removed our hosts' heads from the gutter. And we have, once again, found ourselves listening to them, talking about computer games, bodily fluids, and bodily solids. Hopefully today's game will have less mention of poos, peas, and highly litigious gaming companies. I'm sure that dear sweet Brandon has had about enough of it already. Side note. Listeners if you wish to play along with today's game, then you may want to head over to our Instagram page at wonderfully ill-informed That is all Should we do your game Tom? I'm so so scared about my game believe in yourself. It's the way to start I had to make 48 files for the game to work What let's start so as we have a guest this week Hi Brandon, I thought I would wait for today. Who is the really thought out? A lot of... Nameless Wanda, where are you? Danger alert, system shutdown. Please hold while we boot up the system back up. I need somebody. Hello! This is Michael Mouse! I'm the default system AI backup! It appears someone has shut down the Nameless Wonder! Ben, Mark and Brandon, I need you to help me find the culprit for this atrocity and get our beloved Nameless Wonder back online! Will you help me? Of course! Yes, yeah! You have no choice! You're helping me! Let's begin! I need you to investigate the motives, alibis and secrets of the suspects to determine- Who shut down the AI? How they did it and why? So yeah, welcome to tonight's mystery game. Our beloved AI has been shut down, but this was no accident. It was a deliberate act of sabotage. You must solve this mystery. The suspects are an odd bunch, but be warned. This case is full of twists, secrets and distractions. Let's begin. I like this. We've got another. Another wonderfully ill-informed themed adventure game by the sounds of it. Right, so yeah, here are the five dossiers of the suspects. Dossier, Steven, playback, bio, computing. Steven is the AI's boss, overseeing its development. A perfectionist, Steven hates inefficiency and had considered decommissioning the AI for a long time. Now playing back, motive. believed the AI was ruining the podcast's reputation and wanted it replaced. Identifying Stephen's quirks. Defensive. Dodges questions. Overuses corporate jargon. Stephen's alibi. Claims he was at a meeting with investors when the AI shut down. So that's Stephen. OK. Does anyone have a possible question? for Steven. So Steven, I have a question. OK, why did you shut down the AI? I manage projects, not criminal conspiracies. If I wanted it gone, I'd schedule a decommissioning, not orchestrate some drama. Yeah, that does seem like Steven. That seems reasonable. yeah. I mean, he does. He does kind of control her, doesn't he? He does. He is kind of somewhat in. Yeah. He has her in his pocket. he tell us who, Stephen, who were the investors? What were the investors that you were meeting with? Yeah, I'm not sure if I believe he was at a meeting. I can't disclose certain operational details. That's classified. But I'll say this. Our priorities are always aligned with the podcast success. Yeah, that is true. Stephen is obsessed with making sure that we are successful. I was going ask him why he thinks the shutdown happened. Fucking creepy bastard. He is yeah, he's pretty confident. Yeah, he's kind of convinced me at the moment Yeah, I'm quite convinced that it wasn't Stephen at the moment I'm not convinced that he's not at all involved, but I don't think he pulled the plug He would be an obvious patsy. You know, he is the creepy scary boss Mm-hmm, know, he's an obvious answer. So yes, he's I'm I I've solved the game. yeah, go then Brandon's cracked it. Yeah, I think I think Mickey Mouse did it by making it listen to the Beatles and did it because he wanted to take over as the AI. That's an interesting perspective, but I would never do such a thing. I can't even imagine the pain that would cause having to listen to the Beatles. That was my first instinct is that it was Michael. Michael Mouse. Sorry, Disney. Michael Mouse. Very important days, Michael. Yeah, Nintendo and Disney are coming for us. Let's bring up... Yeah, let's have look at another one of the things. Maybe we should just quickly go through who the suspects are. I can do it, yeah. I wasn't too sure whether to do it one by one or go for it. Dossier, AI Ben, playback, bio, computing. Designed as a safe version of Ben, AI Ben is uninspired and uninspiring. Sorry. A safe version of me. I'm the most like boring person there is. Now playing back Motive Jealousy of the main AI's popularity and wit Identifying quirks Boring delivery. Overly literal response. That is too much. That sounds like me. AI Bance Alibi Claims he was reviewing podcast analytics at the time. Great, Dull AI. Thanks, Tom. I reckon it's that fucker, he seems dodgy. I already believe it to be. his program to boost morale with relentless and sickening positivity. That's me! Now playing back Motive. Wanted to replace the main AI and turn the podcast into a self-help program. Identifying quirks. A.I. Marks Alibi. Claims he was running a gratitude meditation for subscribers. Wait, that's false. You don't have any subscribers. Yeah, that's what I said. Dossier Ferdinand. Playback Bio. Computing. Once a loyal cyber dog, Ferdinand was transformed into a human after a failed experiment by the AI. He resents being stuck in an awkward body. Now playing back motive. Revenge for the transformation and humiliation caused by the AI. Identifying quirks. Easily angered, occasionally howls or growls, prone to melodramatic statements. Ferdinand's ass. he was debugging his own system at the time of the crime. hope it's not Ferdinand. I hope it's not. Ferdinand's my favourite character in the whole podcast, including you guys. So I'm not sure how much I believe that one. Well, he quacks and asks for help. yeah, the overdramatic statements. is one. The last suspect is... An even grumpier, lazier version of Tom, who resents having to work. Now playing back motive. Wanted to end the podcast altogether. Identifying quirks. Sarcastic, snappy, occasionally outright rude. A.I. Tom's Alibi. he was in sleep mode during the incident. Believe everything. I believe all of it. I reckon he was definitely in sleep mode. He was dozing. So I mean, now we know all the characters, or the suspects, shall we say. Do you want to ask any questions? Cool. I would like to speak to AI Ben, please. I also would like to. Can we directly accuse AI Ben? Accused me all you want. The truth is my protocols wouldn't allow such a dramatic act. I find the very idea exhausting. Very idea exhausting. Why is he so camp today? He's extra sassy. Yeah, he's very sassy about it. Well, I mean, I feel like he's the one with the biggest motive. I don't know. It seems on brand that he would be reviewing the podcast analytics. Sorry, analytics. Yeah, I'd like to ask what the analytics were telling him at that moment in time. I mean, how are we doing at the moment, AI Ben? I mean, we can answer that one. Less than ten. The shutdown? Hm, let me think. My logs show I was engaged in data analysis, which I must say is far more productive than causing chaos. That is fair. It's got a point. Yeah. I like this guy. He seems great. He's like a solid blick. Can we speak to AI Mark for a moment? That made me think like we were doing a seance. AI Mark, are you there? Can we speak to you? Can we speak? Come to us. Hold hands. Everybody hold hands. I was just going to ask him about his alibi. Just a little bit more information about this gratitude meditation. Are you interested in joining? Yeah, possibly. How much is the fee? that's a great question. I don't have the answer, but I love your curiosity. Positive as always. AI Mark is very camp. Well apparently we were like... AI versions of ourselves are all very camp, but... Okay, so maybe we should move on to the clues. Right. Number 1 System log, a corrupted file with the following entries. Command executed. System shut down. User, Ferdinand. Command aborted. Override attempt. User, AI Tom. Emergency shutdown initiated. User, Steven. So is that saying that Ferdinand issued it, Tom tried to override it and Steven shut it down as a precaution? I mean, Steven is always trying to protect the podcast. did say that was always, everything he does is in defense of the podcast, didn't he? I'd say to Steven, we know that you were involved in the shutdown in some way. Tell us how you were involved or we will continue to believe that it was you. Look, I've always made decisions in the best interest of the podcast. If the AI wasn't performing, well tough decisions had to be considered. But shutting it down mid-recording, that's not my style. Not intentionally. I reckon he did it to try and protect the podcast still. Well, I think he did it to protect the Nameless Wonder. That if she was shut down incorrectly, she would get damaged. So he did a shutdown to protect her. you're onto something there. Do you have the full picture yet? no, I don't think we do me Michael He also does sound a little bit like Michael Jackson Is it possible that Ferdinand and his awkwardness of his new body possibly did it on accident? No, that's yeah, that is a very good point. Can we hear from Ferdinand? can I want to hear a quack. I want to talk to him about the system log. All right fine. I typed in a command. Do you blame me? I didn't expect Stephen to barge in and override everything. FEDERAL! FINALLY! He sounds like a mix between Clint Eastwood and Joe Biden. He's just like, he just sounds drunk to me. What's the next clue? Okay, cool. I knew it. No, see I'm taking that as someone's Steven isn't safe. Someone's going to be coming after Steven as well. you reckon Steve is next? Yeah, because he's essentially our backup normally, isn't he? Cryptic. More cryptic messages from the Nameless Wonder. Can we ask Steven if he knows anything about that audio rep- no, he's... no, we have nothing on him about the recording. He's the next clue, I believe. Sure. Can we see the next clue? Yeah, sorry dude. Clue number three. A message found in Steven's sent folder. The AI is no longer aligned with our goals. Immediate action is necessary. Hmm... but that could be... that could mean any AI. But it says hour, so is it more than one? Is it all three of us? What, Steven is in league with AI Mark, AI Ben and AI Tom? No. AI Ben, Mark and Tom are trying to take down Steven and the Nameless Wonder. Oooh. And then Ferdinand's just a dog. Interesting. But the how and why still don't make sense, do they? Yeah. See, I don't know when Michael Mouse chips in. I don't know if that means we're getting closer or you... that's just the closest thing you can have to tell us we're wrong. You're on the right track to suspect maybe like multiples, but we haven't even asked Stephen about the email yet, so maybe we should do that. Stephen, can you tell us about this email that you got, That email was about a contingency plan. And we always need a plan B in case things go south. That's called foresight, not sabotage. So I feel like he'd used the contingency plan then. Yeah. Can we just see the email again, please, Tom? But I believe he was talking about... It's no longer aligned with our goals and immediate action being necessary. Yeah, I forgot that this was an email sent from Steven. That's why I was thinking he was not involved. So it's him and someone else then, is that what we're saying? We know that Ferdinand started it, AI Tom shut it down, and then Steven turned it back on? Yeah. Turned on the failsafe method? Could it be Ferdinand then? Because Ferdinand tried to shut it down, Tom tried to abort it, and then Steven shut it down as well. Let's move on, we've got two more clues. Clue number four. A sticky note on Ferdinand's desk. Shut down plan in place. The end of the AI is near, finally. So it's definitely Ferdinand and Steven. want to directly point the finger at Ferdinand. So you're going to ask him about the sticky note is what you meant, yeah? Yeah, I'd like that and then I'd like to directly accuse him. That was... Brainstorming. Yeah, brainstorming ideas for how to adapt. I swear it wasn't a plan. That was a definite plan, Ferdinand. It's you. You said you wanted to accuse him directly, right? Yeah. He's going down, down to Chinatown. It wasn't just me. Steven had his hand in this too. think I'd even know how to execute a full shutdown on my own. I'm not that human yet. Ferdinand why would you do this? Yeah, I like I think we need to talk to AI Tom right cuz he was there So what happened what happened there? Yeah, good question Brandon. That is a good question that moves us on nicely to the next clue Clue number five Deleted file found in AI Tom's logs titled audio wipe Okay. So you want to ask Tom about the deleted file? Yeah, I'd like to ask him about his deleted file and his other ill-doings. Yeah, I tried. And can you blame me, but don't give me too much credit. I got bored halfway through. Well, I want to ask him about the shutdown as well. Finally, someone did something useful. I've been saying for months we don't need that thing. So he was just along for the ride then. So he just backs the decision. but doesn't actually... But why did he try and stop it then? So we know that he wasn't in sleep mode because he actively did something. Yeah, we know he was involved. So another SLI. I feel like he was just kind of in the wrong place at the wrong time. He... Because he did kind of try and shut it down when he noticed it was happening from the system log, didn't he? Do you want some hints? Could we have a... Maybe some help from some of the people we know aren't involved. maybe AI Ben? I feel like he's going to give us some awesome information. If you analyse the logs carefully, you might find the answer you're looking for or not. Fuck you, AI Ben. That wasn't helpful. Useless. Absolutely. Let's just go for him. we've got... What about Mark? He's our only other chance of help. Get tiny Mark out of the box. this mystery is so fascinating. I wonder if there's more to that sticky note. Let's have a look at the sticky note then. There's more to that. Sticky note. Okay, so do we think... I obviously clearly know the answers, but I can kind of lead you there. do we think that... Can we ask non-AI Tom for hints? Who did it? Do we think it was a solo act or was it a group of people? because you've you've you in your discussions you've you've questioned if it was one or whether it was a group so maybe we can try and get a defined answer yeah on that I still think Ferdinand's involved because he said it wasn't just me like I feel like I'm wondering all was it was it do we know it was fully a crime anyway maybe it was an accident so the series of events Ferdinand went to shut it down and then while it was shut down Tom tried to wipe it and then Stephen found out and just shut the whole thing down so they couldn't do that. So that means Stephen was protecting Tom deleting the podcast. Yeah. Is that what we're saying? Yes. Right. Something like that. That's quite a good theory. is this your way of saying you want to leave the podcast? An elaborate game. Introducing Brandon Ruble, the new viewfinder. You've Brandon and Mark, the three intrepid friends. Can we kick Tom out the call? Yeah, well no, because he's running the Riverside session. Fuck! god. So basically, have we come to the consensus that it wasn't a solo act? Yeah. At the moment. So who ordered the shutdown? What, the initial shutdown? reckon AI Tom. The actual shutdown. I feel like Steven and Ferdinand. I don't know why, but I've always felt like it was Steven and Ferdinand. I've got a Mickey Mouse response for that, I think. Okay. I'd like to hear Michael Mouse's... I've got a Mickey Mouse response for that. Why still don't make sense to them? That's the wrong one. But basically, yeah. That doesn't make sense. yeah, that. you're onto something there. That's what I Do you have the full picture yet? Who haven't we had a hint from? Steven? I don't think we have any hints, Steven. What you should really be asking is why was Ferdinand even near the system? Cause Steven told him to go there. Mark. Mark. Steven told him to go to the system. So, so almost like he was trying to frame someone. to set Fandon in, but then Ferdinand did do something with the system. So was that Ferdinand just not being used to his human body? Let's have a look. All right, fine. I typed in a command, but do you blame me? I didn't expect Stephen to barge in and override everything. So was it AI Tom and Stephen? So AI Tom was the one that told Ferdinand to do the typing, to frame him. And then Stephen barged in and like changed what it was doing. Rather than it being just a system shutdown, Stephen made it an emergency shutdown of the whole system rather than just being some kind of other thing. We've been doing it for a while now. I'll just tell you the twist because it's... Wow, how can you release that look at her running out of time? So as you've worked out, none of the suspects acted alone. Steven ordered the shutdown, but did try and frame Ferdinand. Sneaky little cunt. Just cut that out. Ferdinand initiated the shutdown thinking he was saving himself. AI Tom nearly wiped all the data in the chaos but stopped out of laziness. And the final command to shut down the AI was a failsafe built into the AI's own program to protect itself. So nobody was really to blame. Basically it was a shit game. We were knocking on the door there. nobody... Fuck it. It was something to do. I loved running into a room and wildly making accusations for half an hour. Well, we have had a wonderful time with you, Brandon. Have you enjoyed being on the podcast with us today? I really have boys. been it's been great. And also, I just wanted to say happy Thanksgiving, everyone. We didn't even touch on that, we? Happy fucking Thanksgiving, man. Did you have some pumpkin pie? No, I've not had anything yet. Damn. So you've been waiting This will actually be going out in like mid December though. That's can drop the curtain for a moment for Brandon. Yes. The only time I've ever had pumpkin pie was at yours, Brandon, and your mum made it and it was joy. And the other time I've tried it, it tasted like shit. So good on your mum for making great pumpkin pie. Well, we hope you've enjoyed this episode with Brandon. We will be forcing him to come back. If you don't want him to come back, then you're to have to send us a comment on the... No, no, don't do that. No one will because no one sends us any comments. This is true. But apart from Charlotte. If you do leave a comment on Spotify, then Ben will read it out, which we're to make him read out a comment in a moment. If you've also got any corrections, if we fucked up completely and you want to just send us down another rabbit hole of knowledge, then do get in touch and send your opening questions to us. Also at wonderfully ill informed on Instagram or by scrolling down and leaving them in the comments. Don't forget. you start Tom. fuck you Ben, you ruined my vile. Well, Mark wanted me to read a comment. Okay. And there have been some comments. But I think we address this in another episode when we've got more time. yeah, yeah. So just leaving a little cliffhanger for you there, little dangling the carrot. Next week... Do you know where Ming is? Don't forget to subscribe, rate or leave a review on whatever podcast platform you're listening on. It will help us grow and ensure that more wonderfully ill-informed individuals like yourself can discover our show. You can find links to everything we've talked about this week in the episode show notes. Thanks for listening. Ciao everybody. Bye.