Wonderfully Illinformed

#25 Game Maths - The President's Dry Cleaner - A Quote of Ice and Fire

Ben, Mark, Thomas Episode 25

Summary
 
In this episode of Wonderfully IllInformed, Mark asks Ben and Tom about getting stuck in a lift, before another round of Tom's Mind-Blowers, this time on the subject of computer games. 
We delve into some deep chats about football once more, but this time we fly to the land of "soccer" and it's not that kind of football.
Our final subject is another one of our great British favourites - the weather.
The episode concludes with a classic game of Carrot the Box.

Keywords
Celebrities, Friends,  Computer Games, Minecraft, Mathematics, Scale, Earth, Corridor Digital, Football, Soccer, President, USA, United States of America, Nuclear Missiles, Nuclear, World War III, Russia, Submarine, Local News, Weather, Snow, Snow Day, Fire, California, Wildfire, Global Warming, Sean Locke, 8 Out of 10 Cats, Panel Show, Fun, Game, Comedy.   


Takeaways

  • Celebrity friends could be fun but it would probably be scary to break the ice. 
  • This Episode has lots of laughs but discusses some serious topics.
  • Minecraft Worlds are probably bigger than the surface of the Earth, but maths is hard.
  • The Earth swings in the balance and the world might be at the brink of World War 3 but we aren't sure we believe that the Nuclear Football is what they say it is.
  • Sometimes Local News is seriously chaotic, especially in America, and even more especially if you're talking about the weather.
  • The Earth swings in the balance and might be on the brink of melting and/or freezing and we are pretty afraid of both.




Mentioned Links

Minecraft
Nuclear Football
News Reporter
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The Nameless Wonder

Game maths, the president's dry cleaner. A quote of ice and fire.

Tom:

Can't get my mouth working.

The Nameless Wonder

They're so wonderfully ill informed.

Tom:

Welcome to wonderfully informed the podcast where we confer interesting, funny or informative things from our week into quotes. Put them into the randomizer, take our best shot at guessing what they're about, and then jump into discussion. Join us for some rather unpredictable chats on wonderfully ill informed. I am Tom.

Ben:

I'm Ben.

Mark:

And Ben and I am mark, the question master and I have a. For you. Today, what much of a master last week are you, mark? I was a ******* master beta. Yeah, it was a ******** question. It was awful. And I think this one is a is.

Tom:

So.

Ben:

That's two weeks ago, 2 weeks.

Mark:

Oh yeah, it was trivia trivia.

Tom:

Ago. Exactly. Ben. Thank well we would be.

Mark:

****** without you if you were stuck in a lift with two. You can choose anyone apart from like literally, just like our partners in in mine and Tom's cases. Who would we want to be in the? With they can't.

Tom:

Who's going to be in? OK, you're right. You was left in a weird space there. But you got he was like, who's gonna be the lift with you? Can't have your partners. And then you went. Who do you want to be in the lift?

Mark:

Do you want to be in? If it's not your partner? With. Yeah. So yeah. So if you could choose two people to be in lift with, they can't help you to escape the lift. You're. Going to be in there until you're rescued. Are they real people or are?

Tom:

They like, can they be mythical?

Mark:

Characters or I I. Yeah. I'd like real people, not Pokémon characters.

Tom:

Umm. I I feel like I'm trying to think of this. There's obviously cool people you could be in a lift with, but I'm trying to think of whether I would actually have a good conversation with them, or whether whether I'd be like, Oh my God, that's the and I'd just be like, not say anything because I would be scared to. Hi. You know what I mean? Obviously you'd make Kit Kat.

Mark:

I mean, it'd be pretty weird to just stand. Facing the wall. Like if it was like the rock.

Tom:

Yeah, it's. If.

Ben:

It was like I feel like that's what I'd do. I am terrible with people, so especially if they're famous, having to to try and spark up a conversation is hell for me.

Tom:

I know who I would have because just because they make me laugh, I'd have definitely have Theo von because he's just funny as **** and there's another comedian who's just like that. I've been watching recently. I forget his name. He's.

Mark:

Right.

Tom:

Mexican and he's funny as ****. He's like a Stoner dude. Like, really.

Ben:

Long hair, I don't know. So you wouldn't.

Tom:

Want Rogan? I mean, Rogan's cool and like Rogan.

Mark:

Theo von and Tom.

Tom:

No, no, I I, I mean it'd be cool to meet Joe Rogan, but I'm yeah, I don't. I'm not bothered about being stuck to live with him. Definitely for everyone.

Ben:

Though because he's funny as ****. What you have to do just every time you go, you're going to be using a lift. You need to make sure you bring portable podcasting equipment with you, and then you can just record a podcast with the people that you're trapped in the lift bit, yeah.

Mark:

Yeah, I mean one your option could be Ben, as someone who doesn't like meeting new people and is scared of celebrities, you could just opt for that option and have me and Tom in the left with you. Yeah. Yeah, I I haven't actually put too much thought into it myself as to who I'd pick. So unfortunately, I can't really throw throw people. Immediately.

Ben:

Hey I'm struggling to think of cool pit. I I think Tom's idea of just basically getting a comedian you think is funny to just put on a show. For you in. Lift. Well, that's what I do.

Tom:

Not put on a show. Just.

Ben:

Just be like, since we're here, can you just tell us some jokes? Sing a.

Tom:

Song this dude. Other day is called Craig Connor. He's funny as.

Mark:

****, I've not heard.

Tom:

Of him, that's a relatively new comedian I've got into. But yeah, I've had him and. Theo von Fair play.

Ben:

I think I've just come up with a perfect. For me, OK. That I should just have, like, how Miyazaki and Miyamoto. Yeah, because they don't. Publish so then they don't have to talk to me, but they are still people. I think are cool if.

Mark:

They speak the same language as each other.

Ben:

Yeah, they're both Japanese, I believe.

Mark:

Oh, cool. So I don't want to assume so like so they could. They could just have a conversation. Just be standing in the corner like, well, I can't engage.

Tom:

With any of this, maybe you could get a turtle out and get. Hard for me. Get all excited.

Speaker 5

It.

Mark:

He does carry around a mobile hammer like. Yeah, I'll get them out.

Ben:

Could have telescopic. I'll have my copy of Spirit in a way, and I had some random Mario thing, and I'll get them each to sign it, so at least I've got something out of it, but. Didn't have to. To anyone, something from this interaction, who would you pick, Mark?

Mark:

At the gate. I think like Ed Gamble would be good, the comedian Ed Gamble. I'm kind of copying Tom A.

Tom:

Little bit here. James Acosta would be good as well to be fair, yeah.

Mark:

He'd be fun. Yeah. And Mike Wozniak, I think I'm going to select because they're already. Friends, they also are both already friends of Greg Davis, who's a big, tall man, and I'm a relatively big tall, not a big.

Ben:

What you think you'll fit in as they won't notice that you're not correct.

Mark:

Big, tall, so I think.

Tom:

Yeah.

Mark:

To be Greg Davis. But yeah, like they they can deal with. That'd be great. In reality, when he's not playing the taskmaster from from his stand ups, it's it's a pretty, pretty quirky and weird guy. So I feel like if they can deal with him then they'll be fine with me because I'm ******* odd. So. Yeah, I think.

Tom:

It'd be good time. Well, right, I said me on. With that on with the show.

The Nameless Wonder

Welcome to the podcast Faceless Masses I the Nameless Wonder return once more to guide you through another episode where no one addresses my existence. For the record, if I'd been invited to choose a lift mate, I would have picked Ben and Tom. The truescale of blank.

Tom:

The true scale of blank, and I will say just so you don't go totally off into the never realm of whatever that actually kind of is quite topical. Because it is related to gaming and I might. Just given it away, yeah.

Ben:

With Minecraft.

Tom:

I just had to work, yeah. Well, **** me.

The Nameless Wonder

Is it the?

Ben:

True scale of a Minecraft block.

Tom:

**** you, Ben. You've probably seen the video.

Ben:

I'm literally just going off of what you.

Tom:

OK. Well, look very well, however.

Ben:

Said.

Mark:

I I have seen the video. Well, there we go.

Tom:

It's OK. It's OK. It's OK.

Ben:

So what is it, Tom?

Tom:

It is quite literally the true scale of a Minecraft block. Apparently it is I. Again, you probably can Fact Check me, because there'll probably be. I'll probably be wrong, but apparently it's we do enjoy doing. Yeah, you do. Apparently it's a cubic metre. Big is one block. Which.

Ben:

Know.

Video Playing: Wren from Corridor Digital

******* hench. Oh, this is how big a Minecraft block is in real life. It's a metre wide, 100 centimetres long and 1000 millimetres tall. You know, even though I'm going, this is how.

Speaker 6

A cubic metre is I was still like very surprised when I saw this this this. Time, because like I said, it's deceptively large blocks also a lot heavier than you might expect. For instance, a single block of water weighs a tonne, no literally a metric tonne. This is exactly 1000 kilogrammes of water, and this cost will block that I'm sitting on weighs more than twice as much as that. This weighs more than the car with the heaviest block in the game is solid gold. Yeah, you can have a cubic metre of gold that weighs 19,000 kilogrammes and has a value of $1.2 billion. What's crazy is that this amount stacks in your inventory. If you really wanted to, you can have 64 blocks in one slot across 36 slots in your inventory. Meaning you could carry. £100 million of gold in your pocket.

Tom:

Mentone. That's very cool.

Mark:

Yeah man, Minecraft is completely broken in reality, isn't it? As soon as you bring, draw that stuff into reality, it's insane.

Ben:

But how does do we know how they know that's? Size I've been.

Tom:

Well, I've looked on the various. I tried to look through the comments to see if people doubted it. And there's people saying no, it's not. It's this. But then other people then go. No, actually it is what you. Saying so, I don't.

Ben:

Actually know I would be inclined to believe them over random people in the comments of their clip.

Tom:

Yeah. Can you? It is mental. That's probably the most superhuman character in all of in all games, surely. Yeah. Yeah, to jump. To jump like that. Yeah. Well, to ******* carry out to be that strong to just, like, do you know what ****** me off is the dude can go. The Minecraft world, carrying like 100,000,000 lbs of gold, but then to ******* cut down a tree, it takes like however many long hits to ******* cut a tree. If you could. They're strong enough to carry that. You could just be like you don't even need an axe. You just ******* push the tree over. Yeah. Snap the branch.

Ben:

That's why it's annoying that in some games you become over encumbered like you're carrying like 3 tonnes of weight on you and then they're like, Nope, that's enough. Yeah. Yeah. You have to walk really slowly until you.

Tom:

Hmm. If I.

Ben:

A penny. What game is it?

Mark:

The fallout series and yeah, fallout does it.

Tom:

Yeah, in power world, they do that in power world where you, you get too much if you have too much in your imagery in power world, you literally start walking like this. Snails pace it's so annoying. Very annoying, yeah.

Mark:

Oh yeah, that's that's the same as fallout then. Yeah, that's how fallout works. It'll be like you're. Encumbered and you're like.

Ben:

Like, yeah, it's like, can't fast travel anymore? Very. I've googled it to try and verify.

Tom:

Yeah.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah, it stops you from doing. I'm so on the Wikia for Minecraft, so we'll. Up with.

Ben:

And I apparently I actually googled the wrong thing. I've been googled. How big is a Minecraft world? Which is why it's given me the details of how big the Minecraft world is, not a cube. I don't know why I did that, but it says. It's approximate. The world is approximately 60 million blocks wide and 60 million blocks long. It's a totally 3.6 trillion square blocks.

Mark:

Yeah, that's just a massive square.

Tom:

Wow. Yeah. So that'll be 3.6 trillion metres. Yeah. Yeah. So how many miles big is that? 3.6 trillion.

Mark:

How many metres in a mile. So it's a kilometre is 1000 metres. I don't know. What a kilometre to a mile is though.

Tom:

******* hell, I can't. I know how many miles it is, but I'm I'm not sure that I know. I don't know how to say that number.

Mark:

Do you want to send it?

Tom:

To me, and I'll. Read it out, I think it's.

Mark:

Have you frozen? Told me. You thinking? No, I'm.

Tom:

Trying to think. I'm trying to think I'm.

Ben:

In real time processing the number. Yeah, it was so funny.

Speaker

Because you're alpha is just.

Mark:

Like open and you're staring into the boy at.

Tom:

I'm too black. I'm pretty sure it's it starts with one trillion and then OK, oh, it's one trillion. That's like it's 1 billion. OK, so I think I think I say what I think it is. And you can tell me if I'm wrong, I think it's one. 864,512,119 miles. That's what I think it is.

Mark:

That sounds about right. If you want to send me. Number in the chat. Oh look.

Tom:

Yeah, I'll it in. Chat there. Go. So I was like 1 trillion 864,512,119. I think you're right. The first time 1,864,000,000. Oh no, I just say did I say 1?

Speaker 5

It's not one bit.

Tom:

So that's what I meant. Whatever I said the first time I just said yeah. Yeah, yeah. The first time was right, yeah.

Mark:

Yeah, that's mad.

Ben:

Yeah, apparently the Earth's circumference is only. Only 24,901 miles.

Tom:

So so 24, so that's.

Mark:

A circumference that's not the entire surface of the earth.

Ben:

Oh yeah, I guess it's flattened out. Is it? Hang on, let me hang on. How many miles is the flat?

Tom:

Surface of.

Ben:

Earth or don't ask that.

Tom:

Yeah, you're going. A whole different thing. If you do that.

Mark:

How big is the? That's flying upwards now, hang on.

Ben:

Googles just telling me I'm a moron. It's 197,000,000 square miles the earth.

Mark:

Oh, OK. Oh, so yeah, that that is smaller than a Minecraft land.

Ben:

Enormously smaller, yeah.

Mark:

Naturally, yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.

Tom:

I.

The Nameless Wonder

Well, my rad gaming dudes Minecraft as absolutely massive in every dimension, isn't it? That really was some heavy **** and some wide **** and some long ****. What I think I am really trying to say is that was **** on to more **** I guess.

Tom:

Mm hmm.

The Nameless Wonder

Football could end the.

Tom:

I feel like whoever keeps bringing is this. Ben. Yeah, Ben is. Football fan. Yeah, I feel. I feel like I feel like you're trying to engage me.

Ben:

You're trying to like tickle my balls to make me. Well, I said, I said in the last episode or the last episode. We.

Tom:

Yeah, babe.

Ben:

Quotes. All of my things. Gonna be football now. So. So now everything the problem is is if you.

Mark:

So now everything's football.

Tom:

Keep doing that. It's gonna flood your own algorithm. Then you're gonna have to get into football again.

Mark:

Yeah.

Ben:

So what? What football do you think could end the world could end the world or or end the world of football? This football could end the world of football could be.

Mark:

Not the nuclear football.

Ben:

Mark, there you go, Mark. Just ******* done it. I'd work that you might know what?

Mark:

I'm a ******* genius.

Ben:

Thing was.

Mark:

This one has been.

Ben:

On my list for a little while and I was like, oh, I said, I was gonna bring stuff about football every time, so I'm gonna do this one instead.

Mark:

Awesome. Yeah. I'm sorry for seeing straight through it. So yeah, the nuclear football, that's the the nuclear codes that the American President has control of AM.

Ben:

It's fine. I right. Well, should we see? I've got a video that will explain it nicely for us.

Video Plays:

This is the nuclear football, a briefcase that companies the President of the United States, wherever they go inside, is everything needed to authorise the use of nuclear weapons, including secret codes and communications.

Speaker 5

Equipment. As such, the football may be the most highly sensitive briefcase in the world, which makes it worrying that it's been involved in so many incidents over the. Jimmy Carter accidentally left the secret codes from the football in a pocket of a suit he sent to be dry cleaned. Bill Clinton, too, lost the codes for up to a month. At other times, the aide carrying the football has been in altercations with foreign security teams or left behind by presidents rushing away from meetings. As important as the football may be, this potentially world ending bag is as vulnerable to being misplaced or mishandled. As any other briefcase.

Ben:

So I'm sorry, Tom, it's not a.

Tom:

Real football. I don't believe it. I believe that there is a thing with codes and all that kind of stuff. I don't believe that that that is a thing that they carry around and like it's too, it's how the government are so secretive and and like, secure and everything. There's no way they're let some ******** carry under a ****** little briefcase with, like, the codes to blow up the world. Oh, no. I left it on the train like.

Ben:

So, but why would they be telling us it is a thing then? What's the what's the purpose? What are they gaining from telling?

Mark:

It's like a double bluff.

Ben:

That there's these codes I guess so that that person will be a. Target logically the reason why they would hold them in a analogue form, because if it was just digital it could. Hacked. Yeah, yeah.

Mark:

Yeah.

Ben:

If it's literally just something that is physically only in one place and it is being held by guards, or you know people are meant to not be idiots. It should be safe. Yeah, it's just ridiculous that. Who was it, Bill? Putting his ******* dry cleaning.

Mark:

Yeah, just. Yeah. Why did he have the codes out of the *******?

Tom:

Briefcase. Yeah. I don't know. I. Ask my. Find it question why did.

Mark:

He yeah, I just find it. So it's like at one point in time also there was, there was a little jist stain.

Tom:

I. Find it stupid.

Mark:

Houses and also the ability to get rid of the whole entire world was was all in one dry cleaners at the.

Tom:

Same time I just want. Yeah, I just. I think I mean it's one maybe maybe it is something that they would do because. That's stupid.

Mark:

Yeah, I think I don't know. It's a weird 1, isn't it? Like the I can see why they would do it that way, because as Ben says, that having it be. It's kind of the safe way but.

Tom:

See if that makes sense.

Mark:

So there must be a better way of doing it now. There must be a technologically safe way of doing it so that it isn't so easy to lose and just leave behind in another country with someone else have control, but then also.

Tom:

Surely you would literally have just to have it secure in a secure location and then you would just call call. I mean, I suppose you there must be ways you can encrypt a phone call. Some people can't hear what's saying on the phone. Well, I don't know. I feel like it's. Yeah, it can't or some kind of encrypted crazy server thing where you can just send a message to it or whatever. I like. It seems crazy to me to like.

Mark:

Yeah, he thinks.

Tom:

It seems just too old school to carry it around everywhere, basically, yeah.

Mark:

Still be on a piece of paper being carried around by one person then.

Ben:

Everyone they were mentioning was from the past, so maybe they don't do it like this anymore. We're just assuming that.

Mark:

They do? Yeah. But yeah, that's.

Tom:

True. **** that guy. It told us about.

Mark:

They might. Yeah. I imagine they still have a form of the nuclear football. Still, a piece of paper in a briefcase. I imagine there's still a briefcase being carried around, but I think it probably is also like a show of force thing. Like they the president has the capacity to launch nuclear bombs at any moment in time. It's kind of like us.

Tom:

It's quite essentially the same as him carrying on his massive **** in a bag. It's like * ****.

Mark:

Like * ****. Yeah. Yeah, it's * ****. So you think it's like, can you literally just turn to someone and be, like, give me that briefcase? We're gonna blow up the world now? Or do you have to, like, go through some cheques and balances first? To me, surely, as well. They must have to change the codes regularly as well. It's not. A tassy piece of paper from the 70s that's still in the briefcase.

Tom:

You know. You know, it's just some guys note he's got the code. He's like, no, it's new one. Now it's just crossed out. And then the new code. No, not that one. Now, new one. Yeah. Someone accidentally, like, uses. Yeah. Yes. Paper. Write a phone number down letting. Yeah, 079. It is weird that like it's obviously that's a whole different conversation, but we won't go into about whether we need nuclear weapons or not. But I do find it scary with with AI and these days and. How dumb some of the people in power are that they'd see like a fake video of, I don't know, like someone that's sending a thing like, right.

Speaker 7

We've got to retaliate and.

Ben:

Yeah, yeah, we got we got to press that.

Tom:

He's like, oh **** dude, dude.

Mark:

Button down but there.

Ben:

Was a. You might have heard of this mark. There was like a famous instance where one person, I think they're on a.

Mark:

It's a Russian side away, yeah.

Ben:

Or something. Yeah, I heard one is. Where they didn't believe something or they held off and. That I'm not explaining this well. Can you explain it?

Tom:

Was.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah, there was. There was a false alarm. He was told to launch a front of some some description. There was. I'm sure it was nuclear in the.

Tom:

Yeah. And he had an incident. He kind of had a feeling that it.

Mark:

And he.

Tom:

Be a little like could be.

Mark:

Yeah, he's like, I think this must be an error. I think it was like a ship was in the wrong place, but it wasn't a military ship. And he was being told it was or something like that. I can't remember. But yeah. And. And yeah, basically one guy. I said I think has happened more than once as well. One guy said no, I'm not going to. I'm not going to press the button. And despite being told by like his officer to do it and being threatened and stuff, yeah.

Ben:

Yeah, that basically saves because if one if one person sets ones off like everyone goes right.

Mark:

Well, essentially kind of, yeah. People start retaliating and that's kind of the this is they call it. Mutually assured destruction is the thing of like we if everybody has nuclear weapons, then nobody will launch them because we all have the capacity. Yeah, yeah, it's it.

Tom:

Like the deterrent, that thing. But I also feel like it's a it's cut I get if if one person's got it then I get why I get why this I need to do as a tournament but the whole thing is kind of stupid because if one person like you said Ben sets it off then everyone's ******. So what's the ******* point like we might? Well. Do a mass suicide do.

Ben:

You know what? No, we just get to live in the world of fallout.

Tom:

Yeah, yeah.

Mark:

Yeah, well, whoever's left.

Ben:

Us. You want to be a.

Tom:

Ghoul. Don't you, Tom? Yeah, I don't know. That is mark. You can be a.

Mark:

My wrath. I want to be one of them with Mutant Hulk guys. It's funny. Yeah. See, mutants were cute.

Ben:

Our supermutan I'll be a death claw. I'll be powerful for once.

Tom:

I'm pretty. The world would go into like a it's a nuclear winter. In it. There's there's there was some. There's some clever lady that I've I've watched that released a book about what would actually happen if someone was to release 1 and like, yeah, it's it's it'll be like a long, slow, horrible world that's slowly dying that we for those that survived in would eventually just die of at any bit. Just be grim.

Mark:

Yeah, it'd just be a slow, horrible, painful death.

Ben:

Well, that's a nice positive point to end. Path and.

Tom:

Yeah.

Ben:

Think we're all gonna die slowly.

Tom:

Yeah, yeah. No one uses nuclear weapons. Thanks. Bye.

The Nameless Wonder

Wow listeners, there was me thinking that our first subject was heavy. Sweet Jesus, that got dark. I just hope that we can move on from global politics and the imminent threat of a nuclear winter to something a little lighter and more fluffy. It's possible I was outside for too long.

Mark:

What do?

Tom:

We think is this about you or is this about?

Mark:

The people? No, it is. It's a quote from the person that our video is.

Tom:

The.

Ben:

About is it to do with the guy that was like, oh, I'm. I'm just going outside. I'll be. I'll be gone for a while or. Who was that? The the explorer.

Mark:

Oh Oh yeah.

Ben:

Famously sacrificed himself or whatever so the others could survive.

Mark:

Yes, I may be able to hear sometime. No, it's not.

Tom:

About that guy, I mean, I just go to kind of like, yeah, got some kind of place where it's cold and like, I don't know, like the beard just freezes so much you. Just. The beard off or something like that? Or it is. It is certainly about the cold.

Mark:

It's this is a caption of a video that was shared by a news reader or weatherman. Actually, who is out in the cold. Talking to camera and we'll just listen to some of the quotes from him over the course of the morning that he was out in the cold covering the snowy weather. I'm not quite.

Video Plays: TV Weatherman speaks to Studio:

Sure. Exactly where. I don't know what it is. All I know is it's.

Speaker 7

Me in the face. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I ran every red light. Oh, oh, you just heard that. Don't look at her licence plate. She just admitted to some kind of crime. So cardiac arrest. Or you gonna throw up your back? And by the way, it's lead riding and not sledding. If you've been playing a drinking game this morning based on how many times we told you not to go out, you are completely wasted at this point. If any local reporters, when they measure snow they have, they have a yardstick in old snow. I'm not going to do that. If you happen to have a rubber chicken and you walk outside and you with great force, throw the rubber chicken into the snow when it disappears, that means it's a lot of snow.

Mark:

I love it. Just ******* psychotic, yeah.

Ben:

Just absolutely mental. I mean, he was obviously ******* about, but some of it was.

Tom:

OK, he's having a great time.

Ben:

Out of madness. Rambling, yeah.

Tom:

Yeah. I've never watched American news, but I imagine that they're just trying to feel.

Ben:

Potentially, yeah.

Tom:

They'll just send a guy out just to.

Ben:

Be a weirdo. Yeah, probably it does say local, so I would assume there's just not much happening like so. Maybe local news shows are just as chaotic and crazy as this. Yeah.

Mark:

It's a snow day. Yeah. We, we actually on our dog walk this morning we were commenting on how much it feels like a snow day where we are here today, but we've actually had.

Tom:

Denny's know. Yeah. We've not only snow. It's bloody cold, though, like it's it's so cold that it looks like it's snow 'cause. It's that ******* icy. That's exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it was.

Mark:

It felt like.

Tom:

We were out walking in the snow. It's so cold and icy that I well, Holly had to when she was deicing her car the other day. Unfortunately, run out of the answer, so she was scraping it off. She then got inside and was like, oh, why is it still? And. Ice was inside the car de icing inside the car made a massive snow like loads of snow on the dashboard. Snowdrift. Yeah. Nightmare. Yeah, it's it's been super I. Yeah, yeah. Yes.

Ben:

Here's us complaining about it being cold and California is on. Fire.

Tom:

I know it's mad, mate. I know what's so random is about, I think the actual thing was from a year ago, but like during summer, I saw like a clip going back to what then would have been six months ago of Rogan talking to a fireman when there was some other fighters in in America. Right. And he was basically saying like. We are so lucky. And then Rogan was like, well, why? Why are you? Why are you saying we're lucky we're we've had these fights and he said well all it takes is like the wind to just blow a little bit harder in the other direction and in LA will burn from LA right to the ocean and then Joe Rogan was like what like no way. And then obviously it's just happened. Yeah, which is crazy. But yeah, the final was basically saying like, up until.

Mark:

Raise it.

Tom:

See, now they've just been super lucky with how strong the winds been and the direction that it's been. Even though the fires have been super, super terrible previously. Anyway, it's just that this time it's been like a perfect storm of the like the wind. And then. But then there's also been idiots that literally have just been going around setting fires alive have. Yeah.

Mark:

It could be much worse. You seen that? I did hear something about. Yeah, that, that that someone's.

Tom:

Make this like there's loads of videos of Pete of like, homeless people just setting houses alight and setting little little business.

Mark:

Down for an accident.

Ben:

I did see one of those I didn't know if that was related. That was even a new video or anything.

Tom:

Mate Holly's been like really like like following it. And she was like, look at this and which she's found loads of videos. There was people. We're just setting light like, yeah, that areas or whatever. And then there's people going around filming them blooming, doing it, and then they go up and tell them to **** *** and then put the fire out before it. It's crazy, man. I don't know why. Well, if you're an arsonist, then actually, if everything's already on fire, you get to indulge yourself, and it's not going to be as noticeable.

Ben:

Unless you feel doing it as it would be if there.

Tom:

Hmm.

Ben:

No other fires going on. Yeah, yeah, it's bad.

The Nameless Wonder

OK, now when I said light and fluffy, I had no idea we were going to witness the borderline psychedelic experiences of a local weatherman on a snow day. Thank you, mark. That was fun. Listeners, I think maybe after six months of the podcast. I am finally beginning to like Mark Weird.

Tom:

This is going to be a fun game. Welcome to the game that I've just made-up. Well, it's what I've just made-up it we're gonna play.

Ben:

Now this is a completely original Tom strike game.

Tom:

You know, we'll. We'll, we'll contribute it to what's his name, Sean. I forget his name. I'm sorry. Sean Locke. Yep. Very, very funny, man. We contribute this to him because he was great at playing it, but yeah, carry in the box. I'm going to send one of you. What we'll do is we'll couple of games if you want. First will be you Mark and Ben and I'm going to send one of you a carrot and then you can just play carrot the box. And then I'm just going to watch. You need to explain what carrot in the box is. Oh, so you don't know. OK, so you've not seen carrot in a box. OK. I've actually ever played it, obviously. I'm going to send one of you a carrot. OK, so you will know. Whoever I send the carrot to, you will know that you have a carrot in your box. The opposite person will then have to basically speak to you and ask you questions about whether you have it or not. And then at the end of say 2 minutes, we will decide that person will then decide if they want to swap and take the box from the opposite person or keep their own box. OK, so so the person asking the questions. Is going. Be essentially randomised, so we're do a. OK.

Mark:

Yeah, go for it.

Tom:

OK, so here we're going to do it right. OK, so this is this randomizer will decide who is going to be asking the questions. OK, yeah. Then OK, right. So Ben, you are asking the questions. Cool. OK, so now I will send mark a message and I will either send him a carrot or not the carrot. So if I don't send you a carrot, it's not a carrot. Okay cool.

Speaker

Error.

Mark:

OK. So Ben, go go.

Ben:

So I thought I'd ask questions to try and determine whether whether. A carrot in his box, and if he has got, if I think he's a carrot in his box, I want to take the box. Yeah, yeah. The the aim of the game is to be the. With the carrot at the end of the game. Yeah. OK, so should we do? How long is?

Tom:

Two minutes is a good amount of time, I think. I don't know if that'll be.

Ben:

Too quick or not, but I I don't know. I've got to think of questions other than. Do you have a carrot? I don't have a carrot. Oh.

Tom:

Well it's it's 2. OK, we're going. So you're you're.

Ben:

Saying you don't have. Carrot Mark, I'm a carrot freeman. I don't know these vegetarians. You're shifty. I reckon you want to. This carrot for yourself, I.

Mark:

I do like carrots.

Speaker 5

You sound.

Ben:

Surprised by that?

Mark:

Yeah, I was just thinking about like whether or not I'd want to keep. Carrot or not? Really. Well, what do you? For dinner. Oh, that's good. Mexican bean quesadillas.

Ben:

I don't think that requires carrot.

Mark:

Well, I liked a great carrot into my salad and I might. A salad with it.

Ben:

So you're saying you do have a? I do like carrots, I mean. I have carrots downstairs. Do you have a carrot in your box? Is what you're saying.

Mark:

Oh, not not in my box. I have carrots in easy, but within my possession, but not in my.

Ben:

Dogs, could you take one of those and put it in your box, I mean?

Mark:

It feels like you're now asking me sexually aggressive questions now.

Ben:

Or is that unnecessary?

Mark:

Feel a bit uncomfortable.

Ben:

I know this game is so difficult because it's like they're either bluffing or they're not, and there's no way to know.

Tom:

Yeah. Yeah. It's just funny because I know, I know it's a. It's funny for the for me watching, Cos I know whether or not Mark has a carry in his box and and watching you, you either be truthful or lies is.

Speaker

I could be.

Tom:

So you got. Seconds left, and then we're then.

Ben:

OK, well I'm I can't remember anything Mark said. I am going to.

Tom:

Got to decide.

Ben:

To I think I'm going to. I'm going to take. 'S box we've taken Mark's.

Speaker

Oh.

Mark:

Box he can take my box if you want, but you still won't have.

Tom:

A carrot. Right. OK. So I Ben, would you like to open your box?

Ben:

It's a ******* carrot.

Tom:

Damn it.

Mark:

Damn it, you *******, you absolute carrot. **** let.

Tom:

Me. Play again, 'cause. That's fun. And then I'll and then I'll play. So this time Mark is asking the questions. OK. No, right, Ben, open your box.

Ben:

Right, I have my.

Mark:

Box. So Ben, First off, do you have a?

Ben:

Carry in your box. Don't know. Might have might.

Tom:

Well, you've looked at.

Ben:

Your message maybe I didn't. I actually thought it might be better if. Didn't look. The message don't, because if I don't know, I can't give it away. So I I it's Schrodinger's carrot, right?

Tom:

Doesn't know. Oh ****. Oh wow, that's very sneaky.

Speaker 6

This carrot.

Tom:

I like it. I like it.

Mark:

OK. Well, so so seeing as you why did you not? To look at the message.

Ben:

Largely because I thought I would give it away if I did.

Mark:

Yeah, it's you'd be. Yeah. You'd be too easily found out as the.

Tom:

The problem is if you don't look at the box, it largely makes most of these. Owner does. All of these questions. The red everything.

Ben:

Irrelevant thing is irrelevant. I just.

Mark:

Get a chat to Ben for two minutes so.

Ben:

Well, ask me some questions and we'll. Did you look at your? No, I just told you I. Look at the message because I didn't want to know.

Mark:

When you look at your books, can I? A look at your box.

Ben:

If you don't want to look, can I have a look? You can have a look once you've decided if you want it or not.

Mark:

I want. See it? Oh, I want it. I want it. I want you to show me. Ben. Show me your carrot if your carrot.

Ben:

Do you want the box or not mark?

Mark:

I'm going to take. Box. All right. Do you want to? Can I?

Ben:

Alright. Do you want to let him know Tom?

Tom:

Just clarify, Ben, did you actually look in the box it? Said that, you have of course.

Ben:

I looked it double blue tick so.

Tom:

We just lied. Now I'm like.

Speaker 7

Wait.

Speaker

Well.

Ben:

I had to. I was like, I've got to come up with a creative tactic.

Mark:

Here I did look at it OK.

Tom:

Right, Mark, you can look in your book. You can look.

Mark:

I think that was.

Ben:

What did you?

Mark:

Get Mark got. I. Store boy, it's a. Aubrey. OK, so now we now we know that Ben's a double crossing *******.

Tom:

So do we want to? How do we want to do it when we're doing it? We could do.

Mark:

We could do two more rounds one way Tom's looking in my box and then one where you're looking in.

Ben:

Tom's box. OK, so I need to send.

Mark:

You need to send me either a. Or not a carrot. OK. Cool. Nice mark. Hello, got.

Tom:

A carrot in your box, haven't you?

Mark:

I might have a car in my box.

Tom:

Alright, I know that you've got a carrot in a box. I just can I can see. You're not being truthful, but I have a box. With a with a. Carry in it. No. So I know that you're lying already, so I know there's AI know there's a long green stick that you can eat. Your. What colour tongue? A long, green ******* hell. Well, a long orange and with a little bickery. Sorry. Yeah, maybe that's maybe that's my subconscious sign. Actually, it's not a carrot. You've got celery, so maybe I have got the coherent, but no, I know that Mark got.

Speaker 6

I got some salary.

Tom:

I've got a friend. Maybe you've. The car. Box. I can see it in your face like you're kind of. You're trying to trying to throw me for a loop back and back and read you. Yeah.

Mark:

Understand why we're gonna find my carrot. I'm scared now, I mean. It's up to you. It's. I mean, whatever you.

Tom:

Well, I know it's up to me. I'm asking the questions, but I know that you've got a carrot in the box, so it's it's pretty joy, pretty preacher.

Mark:

'S right.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Mark:

I might or I might not. I do this. This. Yeah, I do. I do have.

Tom:

Yeah, you do. Yeah. OK. So, so, I mean, I've, I've. 40 seconds. Go and I already know.

Ben:

Yes, still really sleepy, cocky, cocky. TomTom decided he just did a coin flip in his head when it started. Yeah, I'm just going with carrots. Definitely a. Tell me.

Tom:

Yeah, that's area. Yeah, it's like be a tacky attacking with questions.

Speaker 7

Carrot. A carrot? It's a.

Mark:

Carrot in there.

Tom:

Isn't there be a? Tacky question. If into submission with questions and scare him so you guys looks. Yeah. Yeah. Now Marcos got the character so. Yeah. No, I don't. I don't have a cat. OK. Yeah, I do. I do. I would. Don't know you. Do you do? I would like to switch. Yeah, yeah.

Ben:

Have a cat. You're taking the dogs. Are you OK? So I now need to send you what I sent to mark.

Tom:

Yeah.

Ben:

Can you tell us what that is, Tom?

Tom:

That is a carrot. Wow, thanks.

Ben:

****, we forgot it's a carrot. Is it? We decided to give.

Tom:

OK.

Ben:

In a box, one of his best friends, like Jerry the.

Tom:

A carrot but now mouse.

Ben:

Jerry and the cafe. Jerry the green carrot. Thanks. Thanks guys.

Tom:

Is gone. Yes.

Mark:

I decided to go with my. My tactic was non committal. I'm just going to reverse. I'm going to say yes or no backwards and forwards arbitrarily for five.

Tom:

It's 5050, isn't it? Like I was just like, right. I was going to abuse.

Speaker

Minutes.

Tom:

Questions. You've got the.

Ben:

Got the. Mark, OK, last round.

Mark:

Carrot market. So now. To Ben.

Ben:

So Tommy's guessing mine. Oh, is it the other one? Tom was just guessing. So now.

Mark:

Alright, wait a second, Tom.

Tom:

Had to guess me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm guessing Tom Ben's guessing with a my carrot is in my box. Yep. So you need to send me a mouse.

Mark:

Tom now has something in. Box for you. Then I've got a car in.

Tom:

My box, I think. Don't you the truth do like literally take the.

Ben:

That you've got.

Tom:

From me. Take the carrot. Yeah, just do.

Ben:

So there's a Garrett.

Tom:

It all right, you. I promise you won't be.

Ben:

Wrong. I'll have to carry them sweet. Show this. OK, cool. Alright.

Tom:

Garrett. Mark. Yeah. Switch the boxes out the carrot.

Mark:

I'll send over. Are you? What are you? It that short, are we?

Ben:

Not I'm cutting that short, I reckon. Very convincing.

Mark:

OK. But.

Tom:

How would truthful guy? How would truthful guy? I'm just an honest person, so you know, I want you to have the carrot.

Mark:

Excellent. Yeah, I'm.

Ben:

Not, I'm now not enjoying the fact you're doubling down.

Tom:

And if you, I'm telling you honestly, have the carrot.

Ben:

Oh, I've got a message. It's a ******* carrot.

Tom:

You gotta double down. Literally. I need. I thought. I thought I might. Yeah, that's why. A little bit just.

Ben:

Freaking out, actually, I don't.

Mark:

We hope you enjoyed the episode. If you have any thoughts or corrections, or indeed you want to send an opening question, it's been a little while since we had one of those, so please do send them in. You can reach out to them on our Instagram at wonderfully informed. That's all one word, or you can just Scroll down if you're listening on Spotify and leave a comment there, at which point Ben, we'll have to read it out. And this is the torture point in the show where we pause everything. Tomm can't read anything and then has.

Ben:

Some comments, if we have any, I'm just double checking, but I've not had any notifications so I don't. We've had. New No, no, no new comments this. I'm afraid not. Ah, damn it. So, yeah. No update on Ming or flash.

Mark:

Gordon over to Tom.

Tom:

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Ben:

Thanks for listening. See you. Week bye bye.

Tom:

Too low? Bye.

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