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The Nameless Wonder:

Making my dream game. the wonderful everyday. reanimation.

Tom:

Me quote go OK.

Ben:

That you're typing in your command there, are you?

Tom:

Yes. Yeah, I. Have to book my brain into gear.

Ben:

Tom's running on MS-DOS.

The Nameless Wonder:

They're so wonderfully ill informed.

Tom:

Hello, welcome to wonderfully ill informed the podcast where we can draw interesting, funny or informative things from our week into quotes, put them into the randomiser, take our best shot at guessing what they're about, and then jump into the discussion. Join us for some rather unpredictable chats on wonderfully ill informed. I'm Tom. I'm Ben.

Mark:

And I.

Ben:

Little mousy mark there. You're very quiet and and timid there, mark.

Mark:

Sorry, I was. I was just coming in. I was trying not to. Be like hello, I'm mark. After everyone was like, hi I'm. I'm Tom line Ben.

Tom:

I put a coffee here. I toured with the the idea that it's very dangerous idea of trying to go off of script.

Mark:

Oh.

Tom:

I was going to go, oh, yeah, I grab your coffees, grab your drinks. If you're listening to us walking along the street. There and then I've immediately got scared and knew that I'd **** it up so decided not to do.

Speaker

And that's going.

Tom:

Yeah. Just stayed perfectly on the script and there is a moment if you listen to me, read that where I thought, oh, should I go off script and I didn't. And then I had a little wobble, but yeah.

Mark:

I appreciate it. Well, yeah, I'm I'm full volume mark now and I have a little question for you. I'm on the fence as to which one to ask you, but I'm going to ask you this one because I've been sitting on this one for ages. Would you rather someone coughed on? Meal you ate before you ate it or. People openly sneezed in your face at least once a day.

Tom:

There's there's the head.

Ben:

Shot to the head. Neither of those are a good option.

Mark:

It could be a dry cough, you know, it's not always not. It's not spitting on your food.

Speaker 5

It's not always going to be.

Tom:

I just would just starve myself, so I never have to deal.

Mark:

With that, never again I'd.

Tom:

Fast, but just permanently. Just drink more.

Mark:

OK, what if 'cause it does feel a bit, to be honest. It's a bit one. Anyway, which with the meal.

Tom:

You right here. Would you rather eat **** or eat ****?

Mark:

Yeah. What if we go with? Would you rather someone coughed on one meal and you don't know which one it is per day? Or one person will openly sneeze in your face once a day? So it's kind of like A1A1. Just don't want to make that decision.

Tom:

No right discussion. Let's move on. No. OK.

Mark:

Decision. OK, OK. If you'd rather if you'd. Rather, get back at the the ditch that I've that I've dug for myself here. Shall I ask you a different question? Would you rather answer one that's not going to make you?

Tom:

Kind of vomiting right now, questions Mark.

Mark:

It's frightening. OK, well, let's make it this we'll make this a four way because this is actually this is another would you rather. So we'll make this. Would you rather of the four options, the coughing, the sneezing or would you rather have to always shout your thoughts? Or loudly sing every word that you would ordinarily speak.

Tom:

So when you say, always shout your thoughts. I mean that you're that it's it's kind of like Tourette's. Like you, you don't have control of. Yeah.

Ben:

Yeah, it would be involuntary.

Mark:

Yeah. Be like, oh, ****. I think I'm just almost **** myself. There, after a fart.

Tom:

So basically just Tourette's then?

Mark:

Yeah. Yeah as well, kind of. But like Tourette's is like ticks and there's all sorts of other bits to it. This is just having. Shout your thoughts and. Was the other option? Sorry or sing everything loudly. Sing everything so your life becomes musical. Or you're Brian blessed.

Ben:

I think I'd go for that one.

Tom:

Yes.

Ben:

I don't really say very much.

Mark:

I don't really say very.

Tom:

Much as long as we can make sure that, like my voice is improved for singing, then we're all good. I just have automatic auto tune like that comedian that does shows that are always auto tuned. You seen them? No, it's good.

Mark:

Oh, just.

Tom:

Don't watch the comedy. Yeah, we're so like.

Mark:

Yes, I have seen. I have been, yeah, the guys.

Tom:

You like? Yeah. Like interaction. Like, is it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Gets the audience to kind of sing along and stuff. Yeah.

Mark:

Oh, how are you doing? Good lady. Oh, I'm doing good.

Ben:

Oh, it's like T pain, all right. Yeah.

Tom:

Yeah. So they can't, not they Can't Sing out of tune.

Mark:

Of it.

Speaker

Yeah.

Ben:

I might actually have seen one of those, you.

Mark:

Probably have at least one. So we were both singing.

Tom:

Yeah, sorry. What are you doing?

Ben:

Think so?

Mark:

I'll probably go with me. With me? No, not.

Tom:

It's just like I probably I probably just have permanent gems.

Ben:

Sneeze to the.

Mark:

Phone. I mean, my dogs, my. Sneeze in my face most days and that's fine that.

Tom:

Wasn't an option.

Mark:

But that was an option I'd I'd. Go with having to sing every word I would ordinarily speak. That was ******* terrible.

The Nameless Wonder:

Welcome listeners and my apologies. What can I say? I am used to a chaotic show, but that was shambolic on a scale hitherto unheard of in podcast history. I am disgusted, disappointed and frankly appalled. Hmm, I guess we must see how deep this trench of steaming turds goes.

Speaker

But.

The Nameless Wonder:

Making a game with blank and also maybe blank potentially.

Tom:

Making a game.

Ben:

I don't know how to unpack the second-half of that nonsense.

Tom:

So I feel like is that quote, I feel like you.

Mark:

Would have said that it's a very me kind of a sentence. To be fair, it's a bit yodery, isn't it? Yeah. So making a game with one thing and also something else possibly.

Tom:

Yeah.

Ben:

Is it Unreal Engine 5 and also maybe? Unity.

Mark:

Oh yeah, like brand names. No, no, it's not. They're not citing brand.

Tom:

Names. Is it making a game with Pokémon and also maybe Pokémon potentially?

Mark:

It's it's an article by Nintendo Magazine. No, no, it's nothing to do with Pokémon.

Tom:

It sounds like my kind of game.

Speaker 6

Yeah.

Ben:

Is this actually about it? When it says game? Is it like a playground game? Is it a video game? What type of game are we looking for here?

Mark:

So yeah. A game with two well with one thing, certainly one thing and maybe something else as well.

Tom:

That that leads us nowhere like show us.

Mark:

OK, so I'm I'm going to read out the actual so this is the I guess the Instagram bio of a new game that's being developed by as far as I can tell, one man. And the intro or the bio is making a game with sledging and also maybe fogs potentially. OK, we were.

Ben:

Never going to get that.

Mark:

I thought this.

Ben:

Might actually have been guessable. No.

Tom:

Sorry.

Mark:

So sledding and potentially frog frogs. Yeah. OK, so essentially this is a a fun little game where frogs. And now in fact, Penguins eventually. Well, now definitely frogs. Now 'cause. He's started developing the.

Ben:

Many leap frogs. Oh, OK.

Mark:

Game he's he's kind of this guy is chronicling the the building of his game and he's kind of asking for people's ideas and kind of just posting quite regular updates. And it's it's just a cute, calm little game and it looks really fun and reminds me of like a game we used to play on our Windows 95 PCs. The Stone Age.

Tom:

Let's let's have a little look. See then.

Mark:

Yeah.

Speaker 6

I made this game about sweating. There's not really anything going on with it, it's just a little. Project I'm working on. There's not really any game aspect yet. It's just going around and sledding with friends, hopefully. I also made rag dolls because they're funny. And watching the chat as well.

Mark:

The folks got a little ****.

Ben:

Why would it not?

Speaker 6

And they could. They could be next chat or. You know. Whatever there be like. Little Hub let me know. You think should be added to this. I don't really know where to go with this project. I just think it's a fun little. Game slash playground thing. I can see it being pretty fun so.

Speaker

I.

Speaker 6

Let me know what.

Tom:

You think and you for some reason he. I mean, he's. I think the game is pretty cool. I've like, I'd be cool. It's a cool mess around game. You know what I mean? Just to **** **** around for a couple of minutes while you're, like, waiting for the train or waiting or waiting for whatever. Like to kill a bit of time, but I I think that he's pitch, he's terrible.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I quite like how like he's just throwing it out there and it kind of feels like quite a community vibe in in the comments I I've posted, you can see my little comment there a few. Ago, when I came across this video.

Speaker

Do.

Mark:

I posted my idea.

Speaker

You want to read your comment.

Mark:

To us, Mark, I can't see it from here.

Tom:

Looks really chill and fun. Maybe build in a way to collect snow and move it, pile it into your own inclines slash ramps.

Mark:

Yeah, it's a good idea. So yeah, thank.

Ben:

You haven't said build your own little courses. I like that. Don't. I wouldn't have as as a professional game developer if I am, I would have a ******* clue how to do that.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Mark:

Yeah, I feel like there's there would have to be like. You know, physics that aren't within the game right now. In order to in order to do that, I guess some kind of like fluid pick what not pixel particle physics.

Ben:

Yeah, it does look interesting. It looks super chill doesn't.

Mark:

Thing.

Ben:

I. I follow a a tonne of like dev logs for games and stuff it's I find it really interesting watching people start from nothing and just develop these really interesting games. Normally never come out like I would be surprised if this guy does actually release a full game of.

Mark:

This I don't know. Like he's if you go to that that's. That was the first video that he posted. He posted like just one image on on the Instagram prior to that. Got 300.

Tom:

And 40,000 likes. That's mental. Yeah, man.

Mark:

It's Cos it's.

Ben:

A frog with a ****. That's the only reason.

Mark:

Yeah, thought of that was the page itself has a quarter of a million followers now. I don't know when it joined.

Tom:

It's nice for a change to read some wholesome comments, not like. Trolls just being. Yeah, that guy's a prick. Whatever. Yeah.

Mark:

Is that what you normally say? When you go physically.

Tom:

Some of the suggestions are a ski lodge at the top of the hill where everyone can hang out and drink hot cocoa and sit by a fire.

Mark:

Yeah.

Tom:

Jute, no, I just got be the garlics.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah, you'd go. You'd slide straight into those.

Tom:

On there trolling, no. Yeah. And this is another one. Howdy, frogs do not handle the cold well on account of being cold blooded. With that in mind, give them little sweaters or scarves seems. A bad idea.

Ben:

So that is a good idea, because then you can introduce cosmetics. It's like how every game, every indie game especially has hats that you can put.

Mark:

On. Yeah, little builder. Well, just wait until you look at the new the new updates that are.

Ben:

The characters. There can you show us the latest videos on?

Mark:

There might be some swears and stuff.

Ben:

Is that a Penguin? There's Penguins now.

Mark:

I mean, it looks really good. It looks good, doesn't it? Yeah.

The Nameless Wonder:

Oh, OK. I think that was some of the more wholesome gaming content that has ever made it onto a podcast. Frogs with buds and Penguins with scarves so adorable I feel like I have whiplash. But OK, Mark, you got me back on side. Crime rings, mysterious murders, crooked cops, and zombies.

Tom:

What do I reckon? Is it? Is it a movie or a game? It's neither. Oh, OK. ATV series it.

Ben:

Is ACV series.

Mark:

Oh, climb rings, mysterious man, crooked cops and zombies.

Tom:

Is it The Walking Dead?

Mark:

So super major.

Tom:

What about? What's that other one? It's got that guy and that girl on it. Oh, that one. Yeah. You know, your last one, I.

Mark:

The Last of Us. Got it. Yeah, I got that guy. And that girl I got you. Right. I think you are.

Ben:

OK, I should do.

Tom:

That probably there's the new series is coming out, isn't it soon? Well, if that they'reming it or something.

Mark:

I'll say did.

Ben:

You watch the first series. Yeah. Yeah. Had you played the game before?

Tom:

Yeah, yeah, I thought. Was great. I'm ready to go. No, I'd never.

Ben:

It's like one of the the best games like narrative games ever made.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's super similar.

Ben:

Which is why it translated so well to a. Show breaking up, I told him I didn't.

Tom:

Hear what you said. I want to say I went to say joy, but my voice just like just was tired and just. And. Went and how I said it sounded like I. Really sad. I was like.

Mark:

I want to can. You isolate the bit. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker

Right, right.

Ben:

Shall I tell you what this is? Yeah, this is ATV show called IKEA Heights.

Tom:

Is it about going to IKEA? Please make it be about going. IKEA is it sponsored by IKEA?

Ben:

Well. Play the video and it will explain it very well.

Mark:

Please say this is like a scandi drama set in an IKEA sponsored by IKEA.

Speaker 7

Why is nobody talking about the fact that an entire TV series was filmed at the IKEA Burbank without? Even noticing, apparently about 16 years ago, a group of comedians filmed entire parody soap opera called IKEA Heights at the Burbank IKEA without the stores permission in the middle of operating hours with actual customers just shopping around them the entire time. If you can start known actors like Randall Park, Whitney Avalon, Matt Brongner, and Richard Lee. In perfect melodrama fashion, IKEA Heights has crime rings, mysterious murders. Cops. I lost track.

Mark:

Of who I am and why I'm.

Speaker 7

A good cop of Samaritan.

Speaker

OK. Come on. I mean, what do you even see?

Mark:

In this guy James.

Speaker

Don't be jealous.

Mark:

Well, maybe you really don't know me, Candace.

Speaker 7

Long lost brothers and zombies.

Speaker 6

You guys got to stop them. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7

Performances are genuinely hilarious and extremely well written, but what really had me dying were the episodes where you can literally see them getting shut down by IKEA staff in the middle of filming, yet they just keep it all in.

Speaker

You guys get permission to shoot here. We. Actually, we do actually do a lot of shoots, but we definitely have to have permission before we can do anything.

Mark:

Shoot. Well, what do we?

Speaker 7

Do about this. Whitney Harrell, who plays Randall Parks, cheating wife in the show, mentioned that the first two episodes literally no one stopped them. Not a single customer or employee, but as the filming went on, IKEA became more and more aware of what they were doing. So they'd spend days rehearsing every. Seen so they could be in and out with minimal takes. IKEA did make a statement acknowledging the show, saying of course they found it hilarious, but they had just wished they asked them for permission before shooting, but in my opinion, that would have taken all the fun and charm out of it. Honestly, you really just have to watch it for yourself, so if you're interested, it's available for free on YouTube and even better quality on Vimeo. Either way, it's the best thing I've ever seen. In a while.

Speaker 6

Crazies are always out. Officer Mitchell this.

Speaker 8

Is ******* IKEA heights?

Tom:

Amazing. I won't be watching it, but that's pretty cool.

Ben:

Just an interesting idea, something that wouldn't necessarily happening, but it kind of makes sense to do something like that because there are basically just these sets of like inside of a house within IKEA.

Tom:

That bedroom. Yeah, yeah.

Ben:

So you, you know, you need a bedroom scene. You've got a bedroom. Yeah. I've not watched it, so I don't know, but I don't know if they actually just fully acknowledge that.

Mark:

Yeah.

Ben:

They are in an IKEA or whether they are trying to make it seem like they are just in their house. Do you know?

Tom:

What I mean? Well, like sort of a bit like Superstore. You seen that show?

Ben:

No.

Tom:

No. Alright mate, it's good show. It's funny that it reminds me of, like, community. Just lighthearted, don't. You don't have to really think, but. Can. Watch different episodes and not really have to.

Mark:

Really. OK. Well, I'll, I'll give it a little look.

Tom:

Recommended it to Joe and he quite liked it and he's binge it. He's actually seen the last season similar to Blooming Community. The last season was on some brand mast ******* like network like.

Mark:

Yahoo. Yeah, alright, it's like Yahoo. Internet TV, I think, is where community went to. When when it got kicked off of everything else.

Ben:

It's the. It's the heroes that actually let series be finished.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah. Although the community confirmed the movies coming 6 either. Things in a. Movie, ************. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually happening.

Ben:

I'd say it because that was such a thing. I did assume at some point they'll do a movie. I didn't know that they'd confirmed there was a movie. How much have they said about it?

Mark:

I listened to a podcast with the guys from Scrubs. What their two names.

Ben:

Zach, Zach and Donald.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Their show where John McHale went on and he confirmed that they've got, they've been paid. They've got the money for it from Peacock TV, who I think own the rights to community at this stage. Or basically they're funding it. And they're just trying to line up schedules. And they were gonna record last summer like summer 2024. But he got, like, multiple TV jobs that he ended up doing and, like, screwed up all the plans. So that's Jeff, yeah.

Tom:

Chase's. Oh no.

Mark:

Oh, he's not coming back. He's not coming back. Definitely not.

Ben:

Yeah, he's also, like, incredibly problematic. Like, they all had a big issue.

Mark:

He's dead.

Ben:

Him. Oh, is he?

Mark:

Dead. Yeah. Could Paul Pierce is dead? Ohh.

Ben:

Peer system, right? I thought you meant Cherry Chase was.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah. Pierce is. Pierce has. Been dead for like 3 Series I think. And he was a hologram.

Ben:

He was in all of the series still.

Mark:

While there wasn't he? No. No, I don't think he was in the last series, but he was sacked. Yeah, they wouldn't work together anymore. Well, him and Joel McHale, bearing in mind there's a massive age gap between them. They they literally fought multiple times. They had physical fights, multiple times.

Speaker 8

Listening.

Ben:

OK, I yeah, because he was like a bit of. ****** ***.

Mark:

So yeah, so it's on the way six seasons, the movie is just a matter of time.

Ben:

Hello.

The Nameless Wonder:

And what another wonderfully uplifting segment. Thank you, Ben. You showed us all that with plenty of teamwork, humans can achieve anything in an IKEA that is apart from the people who will never succeed in picking the furniture that they wish to purchase from the IKEA and those who fail to build the furniture that they decided. Purchase from the IKEA. Can we just help the living first?

Tom:

What do you think that might mean?

Mark:

Is someone trying to help ghosts?

Tom:

It's not ghosts.

Mark:

As as this is from.

Tom:

You, Tom, I'm assuming it this is more light hearted than it sounds because I don't. You don't normally come with like I don't know. I bring quite stuff. I will not necessarily grin, but I bring crazy stuff that usually gets proved to be wrong.

Mark:

So someone has bringing people back from the dead.

Tom:

Not too far off. It's to do with reanimating a human brain, which is crazy. Basically, they've done it with pigs and they've managed to, like reanimate and do whatever they can. They've done and it kind of was.

Speaker

Must be.

Tom:

Reanimating and doing its thing for like 4 hours and they did a human trial. But they've the weird like thing about it is. They're like, pretty sure. That there's no sign of consciousness when they do it. When they did it on the pigs and when they're done on the human, but on the human one. But just just to kind of be ethical and really, really make sure they've I think they've, like sedated this brain before they've done it. On the off chance that. Do you know what I mean? That they lose?

Mark:

Yeah.

Tom:

There and it's like a.

Mark:

It's a sleep. It's a sleepy brain that's drinking rather than a brain. That's like laying there in a dish being like.

Tom:

Yeah.

Mark:

Am I alive? What's going on? I can't see anything. I can't put my legs or my hands or anything.

Speaker

Yeah.

Tom:

This looks like crang from ******* turtle.

Speaker 5

Researchers at Yale who? We're able to more or less reanimate a pigs brain that had been separated from its body and kept at room temperature for more than 4 hours. Now they're able to do the same thing with human brains. And the key to this operation is a sort of.

Mark:

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Device that's somewhat similar to a dialysis machine, which essentially sort of processes your blood for you, cleans the waste products, puts it back in. This is sort of similar, except it's a kind of cocktail that preserves different kinds of brain tissue and functions and things like that, and it protects against. The bad effects of bringing re oxygenated blood back into an organ that hasn't had oxygen for lab.

Speaker 9

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Much of the damage that occurs to your body and your brain when you've been deprived of oxygen isn't because of the deprivation itself, but because of the reintroduction of oxygen. So this reprofusion technology is meant to kind of forestall and mitigate the damage that's caused by that.

Speaker 9

Yeah.

Speaker 5

I think what's really, really, really important to note in the case of the pigs and in the case of the human brains that are. Being brought back to some level of activity is that there is no evidence that there's any kind of consciousness at all. There is no electrical activity.

Speaker 9

That's sedating them, aren't they as well?

Speaker 5

Name. Though that's one of the interesting things.

Speaker 9

That's to make sure in case there would be any glimmers of consciousness.

Mark:

Nice.

Speaker 5

Exactly.

Speaker 9

That the person or the pig wouldn't be aware of it.

Speaker 5

Yeah, which would be a horrible thing. What would your experience in the world be if you were only a brain?

Ben:

How would you even be aware that you're back? You are just a brain. You know you can't see, you can't hear you. You have no sense.

Speaker

Or like.

Mark:

Maybe have what have thought?

Tom:

Yeah, but you could argue like that your senses are your brain. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, like everything is technically not real. It's just your brain fabricating it in a weird way. Yeah, wherever you fabricate. That's the thing. Yeah, but do you know what I mean? Like. Your brain is pretty much doing everything. Yeah, you're you're.

Ben:

Making me feel hyper aware that I am in my own head at the moment.

Tom:

It reminds me of. Have you seen in men in black when they kill that alien and then the the brain. The head opens up and there's this tiny little dude just controlling this little spaceship inside the guy's head. Like that's basically like what it is.

Mark:

Yeah, no alien feeling the strings.

Ben:

Or it's like being John Malkovich.

Tom:

I see I've I've not seen that movie. You. Know there's lots of John Malkovich's.

Mark:

There are lots of John Malkovich's. Very weird. I'd like to hear your honest opinion of it. I think you should watch being John Malkovich and then give us a review of the.

Tom:

But it is interesting, I guess that study that they're doing I. Will it lead to things of kind of keeping us alive longer and stuff like that like?

Mark:

Yeah, like, I'm not sure what the the positive practical use of this is really.

Tom:

Yeah, maybe if they know how to do that with organs, there's a potential to extend life, the sense say you had. Yeah, something happened to you and they needed time. And then the time wasn't there if you did kind of pass like they can are able to, then not they're not isn't the fact they're not able to do this now. But you know, I mean, there's a possibility in the future.

Mark:

No, no, no.

Tom:

They might know and understand how to keep your organs in that kind of frozen state and actually be able to bring it.

Mark:

Back. Yeah, I'm just I it. Feels it feels like a Black Mirror thing. Like I can imagine the person who comes back isn't the same person that died.

Tom:

Well, you don't. I know. I kind of get what you're saying, but then there's people that have literally died for like a minute and then come back and stuff like that and they'll, they'll have these experiences, but they're still pretty much the same people. And I I think that I think it will get into that stage when you're that.

Mark:

Yeah, that's good. Yeah.

Tom:

Kind of iffy question when when your kind of body is literally giving up on you and you're just like a bag of bones doing nothing.

Ben:

Yeah. Hi. Hello. That's me.

Tom:

It's not an idea to keep going on on that, but if you're, I don't know, I feel like, yeah, if you're, I don't know, there's like, a free accident and something happened and you're able to say, I don't know. I see. It's I see it as a as a good thing.

Mark:

Again, like I say, I think it's great, like I don't. It is tragic when people die before their time and I totally understand why people would want to bring, you know, nobody wants to say goodbye to anyone. But I just I I just struggle with. The concept a little bit. And I do kind of get what that. Don't. Whose comment that was that that was on the wheel today. Random idea today. But like, yeah, I kind of do. I can I get with that idea a little bit like surely there are better things that these amazing minds that are focused on this current thing could be doing.

Tom:

Yeah, I. Yes. Is that not surely referring to like you don't just want to just grab random dead people that have just been like dead for like hundreds of years and try and?

Mark:

Spell.

Tom:

Them back? No.

Mark:

Not.

Tom:

Technically, you'd be like if there was someone living and then wasn't all of a sudden living and you and you fixed the problem. They would then you'd still be kind of helping the living even though they weren't the living anymore. I. Know do you?

Ben:

Know what I mean? I mean, like they would be a limit on what they could do. You wouldn't be able to just go.

Mark:

Yeah.

Ben:

Dig up. Like Tutankhamun, yeah. You know, someone from 1000 years ago, they will have been fully decomposed like it would theoretically be possible if they had preserved the body, presumably.

Tom:

Yeah. Yeah, it's only possible from the last point that they actually froze or whatever they do.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah. However, they preserve a brain.

Tom:

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's all. It's all. Yeah, I think it's all little things like that. They're just, I mean, it's just I guess for discovery, isn't it? Trying to find out.

Mark:

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Tom:

They say that we don't use.

Mark:

Is.

Tom:

Much of our brain, right even. I'm sure they might find out that you can fly soon.

Mark:

Oh no, I. I think that's. I think that that I think even that concept is is just based on the fact that we only like the statistic that we only use a small portion of our brain at a time, but we actually use all of. Brain. It's just. Yeah, you know, it's. Just different parts being used at different points in time and you don't use 100% of your brain 100% or at any point of time here.

Tom:

Let's look. Let's ask you.

Mark:

I seem to remember because I definitely have heard that that, you know, yeah, we only use. It was like, I'm pretty sure that was in the. Movie. Lucy. I don't know if you guys. Remember that.

Ben:

I have seen Lucy, yeah.

Tom:

Are you all right? It says yes. Humans use 100% of their brain. The idea that people use 10% of their brain. A myth. Thank you.

Ben:

There you go. Didn't know.

Mark:

That informed Mark today.

Ben:

Well done.

Mark:

I didn't guess any of you guys ****, but *** **** it, this this time I got a fact.

The Nameless Wonder:

Wow. Aren't the sweaty pink flesh bags you call the human race amazing? This really has been one of the most upbeat episodes of wonderfully ill informed ever. Apart from marks. Terrible, vile question at the start. Damn it, man, why listeners, let us hope that our customary game is as lighthearted and fun and not back to the trench of ****.

Tom:

Game time. Benny's got a couple of options to to bring to the table.

Ben:

Do you want me to have a look and see what I've got? Have you got any either? If you got anything.

Mark:

That yeah, yeah.

Tom:

Yeah, only bring options that have been mic approved.

Speaker

None.

Ben:

Oh, I've not run anything by Mike. Gracious. Oh, I do have one. I mentioned in the last episode or the episode. Has been seen it which?

The Nameless Wonder:

We could do if you.

Mark:

Oh, I want to place an order.

Ben:

Want to? Yes, I want to play that game. Let's play. So Mark, Mark had given me some suggestions on how we could do this and I did quite like the idea, so.

Speaker

Order.

Ben:

What I'm going to do is I'm going to give you a film and essentially you need to just say whether you think I have watched it or not. Mark's idea was you 2 could each ask me one question each to try and obtain. Obviously you can use your knowledge of me and whether you think I will have watched. Film. Course, but you can ask one question about. The film or my experience of watching it to try and ascertain whether more information as to whether you think.

Tom:

Similar to that, most like comedian game show, where they is it. Would I lie to you? Kind of like that.

Ben:

Seen it. Yeah, kind of.

Tom:

OK. No, I think this is good, right? OK, what's?

Mark:

Yeah.

Tom:

First movie.

Mark:

None.

Tom:

Pick one you've seen first.

Mark:

I like the way. Trying to but Ben's face changed like. Don't know which one is pick he was then.

Speaker

OK, I'll.

Mark:

Find him. Yeah. Alright. Let's let's start out. Yeah. OK.

Ben:

With a simple one. Star Wars a New Hope.

Tom:

OK. Can you explain what happened in Star Wars? A New Hope then?

Ben:

Well, this is this. The problem, even if I've seen a film, doesn't mean I remember what happens.

Mark:

Any of the things any of the plot points.

Tom:

I feel like I know the answer to this already. I feel like you haven't seen the Star Wars films because you only have watched the Family Guy parodies of them.

Mark:

That was going to be my answer as well.

Ben:

That isn't that would have been correct maybe 10 years ago, but I did. I did watch a New Hope to be like, what's all the fuss about? I'll just watch them. It's same as why I watched Lord of the Rings.

Mark:

Oh no.

Ben:

Basically. It's just peer pressured by you guys in. So I I have seen this, but I will remember it more because of blue harvest and something something dark side all of those the fans I will.

Tom:

Can I just say when Holly listened to the episodes, whenever it was and found out that you had seen Hook Ben, she did go. Oh, Ben.

Mark:

I'm sorry. Well, I know that my wife has also text has been privately and been like, oh, Ben, haven't you seen? I think was it was it legally borne that she told you off not for seeing or was it something?

Ben:

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

Mark:

Recently as well, yeah.

Ben:

I don't know why I wouldn't have seen books, to be honest. They just would. It just wouldn't have been something that came up in my childhood. But there you go. I don't know. I can't. But I think you got that wrong.

Mark:

Yeah. So feminine guys. Yeah. You have now seen that. Damn it, I didn't ask the question this.

Tom:

Yeah, we go. Rd.

Ben:

OK, OK, well, here's. Here's something topical being John Malkovich. Do you think I've seen?

Mark:

It's my question. That I definitely. Yeah, I know you've seen it. Yeah. I think. Seen it with you. I have seen being.

Ben:

John Malcolm but.

Tom:

You literally said that you had.

Mark:

No, no, no, if I.

Ben:

Implied that I knew the general gist of the film.

Mark:

True, true.

Tom:

Isn't there a bit where he like climbs for a small door? Yeah, that's what I've seen of it.

Ben:

But it doesn't. That doesn't mean I've seen. Mm hmm. Yeah, that that's what takes him into being John.

Mark:

Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah, that's how. Enter John Malkovich.

Tom:

I just don't like he's acting. He kind of he just annoys.

Mark:

Me. What John Cusack or John Malkovich?

Tom:

John Malkovich.

Mark:

OK. Yeah, he's a he's very bombastic.

Ben:

Hang on, you've lost me even though I've seen this film. Suck in it.

Mark:

Yeah, drunk Psych is the one that goes and be bees. John. Like fish.

Ben:

Oh, is it OK?

Mark:

Yeah, yeah. See, this is a.

Ben:

Perfect example as to why this game is utter ********, because even if I've seen the. I don't remember.

Speaker

It I mean.

Tom:

We could always see the reverse. We could always. Go and find a classic film that we like and be like. Has they seen it?

Ben:

Well, that was so I was gonna suggest, I think once we've done a few of the ones I've prepared, I think you guys should then each give me one and we'll do the same thing. So it can be something you think I should have seen, but we'll, we'll do that. We'll do that at the end.

Mark:

Hmm.

Ben:

OK, what about silence of the Lambs? Oh, remember you can ask me. Who would you say the.

Mark:

Lead actor was in that then.

Ben:

Anthony Hopkins, OK.

Tom:

Yeah, I I feel like you've only watched this because there was a like, a gathering of friends or something. Like a sleepover or something like that. Like when we were younger, we, we'd all watch. Like, I feel like that's the only reason only time you would have seen it.

Ben:

The only film I remember watching in in a scenario like that was nightmare before Christmas.

Mark:

Oh, OK alright.

Tom:

You got a question?

Mark:

Mark. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I know that Ben does like horror films.

Ben:

This is true.

Mark:

So it certain he certainly is not beyond belief that you would have seen science of the Lambs, and also it might have been something that why do I think that that was in school as well?

Ben:

Mean in school?

Mark:

I feel like on one of the classroom walls, there was a science, the Lambs poster, which might have encouraged you to watch it back in the day, or you might have watched it for like studies. I can't imagine what it would have been, but that.

Ben:

Didn't seem like something I would have done.

Speaker

Back.

Tom:

I also can't imagine the school would of like 1516 year olds would have encouraged an 18 plus movie.

Mark:

I don't know. We did multiple series of watching ******* CSI for science, so.

Tom:

True, we also did watch Americans. We watched American psycho in English.

Mark:

Yes. Listen, there you go. See ya. Oh, but yeah, so I think I would say yes, I think I'd say yes. Yeah.

Ben:

You reckon I have seen it, Tom.

Tom:

I think I feel like you have. Seen it? Nope. ****.

Ben:

You I don't believe I've ever seen silence of the Lambs. The only thing I am aware of it is him sitting in the gaol cell and the woman, whoever she is, it's a good job. You asked like a name character.

Mark:

Yeah. Fairly.

Ben:

Because I'm like, well, I know Anthony Hopkins did it, but I can't remember who. Woman is. Well, sticking to the theme of things you've mentioned, do you think that I have seen American Psycho?

Mark:

Yeah.

Tom:

Oh, what version hit the like old school like, is it Hitchcock one or the like? The more modern one?

Ben:

No, no. You're thinking of psycho.

Speaker

Yeah, yeah.

Tom:

Oh, it's like what's what do you say?

Ben:

American psycho.

Tom:

Oh, is that the one with Christian Bale? The one.

Ben:

You literally mentioned about a minute ago.

Tom:

So I'm in. I'm in the other one.

Ben:

Oh, you meant psycho. OK, well, we can do psycho as well if you want. That is also on the list side for repairs.

Tom:

Yeah. Well, I I would say that you have seen it because you are in my. Class, yeah.

Mark:

Was that?

Tom:

You I sat. To you, Ben, you're such an idiot.

Speaker 8

Was, yeah.

Ben:

I don't remember anything.

Tom:

I used to fall asleep and you used to get paranoid that I was just literally like that. Like you'd be like that.

Ben:

Oh, OK, I don't. I don't remember very much from school. You you are correct, Tom. I have seen Psycho, but I have seen it in more recent years. I do not remember watching it in school.

Tom:

Yeah, anyway. Yeah.

Ben:

What about American psycho mark? Do you think I've seen that?

Mark:

Again, I know you like horrors, but I feel like it's not really classic horrors that you're a massive fan of, so I'm going to. No.

Ben:

This is one that I went back recently and. No.

Mark:

Damn, it's good baby, innit?

Ben:

For the. Of things that I missed that were like I think I.

Tom:

Did you enjoy it?

Mark:

I mean, it's hard to enjoy it per SE.

Tom:

What is the point in going back and watching it like because? Just forget it anyway, yeah.

Ben:

But at least then I have it. The problem with a lot of these things is because they're so like Forrest Gump. When I watch that, I knew so much about the film, but I also didn't really know very much about the film, but.

Mark:

Yeah. Yeah.

Ben:

You kind of have an idea of how a lot of these old films go, but if you haven't seen it, you don't necessarily understand the context. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Like, I just, I I don't really like new films anymore.

Mark:

Right, I've got.

Ben:

To the point where it just.

Tom:

To be fair, I kind of agree with that a.

Ben:

Lot of it just feels like everything is everything. Been done before.

Mark:

Mm.

Ben:

And it's obviously just because we've got to a certain age and I like that like our parents will see films we watched growing up and be like, well, that's obviously just a ******* rip off of this film that I watched when I was a kid.

Speaker 9

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ben:

I'm sure I've got to that point now where I'm just like there's nothing original anymore. Everything is just. I know exactly what's gonna happen. Because it's happened. Happened. For so. Went back and started watching some of the old films. I. Seen. Yeah. OK. I might have the memory of a goldfish. I will. Least remember that for the time of watching it this week, for some reason I've been on a like disaster movie kick and I watched 2012 and I've just started watching the day after tomorrow.

Mark:

Ah, OK, which are your choices?

Ben:

Beginning of the film. Same *******.

Speaker

Oh yeah, yeah, there's.

Ben:

There's no difference apart from one of them blows up and the other one gets cold. That is the difference between the start of those films.

Mark:

Yeah, a day day after tomorrow is a better movie than 2012.

Ben:

Finished.

Mark:

It's now I'm just telling you it's a better movie. It'll be a better.

Tom:

Time you have a better time, a classic one that I like. That's quite old. Is is it journey to the. Of the earth with Brendan Fraser, yeah.

Mark:

Oh. That was a classic.

Tom:

It's like I remember just the first scene where there's like pigeons falling out of the sky and then they get like they they try and get this like little capsule thing. Didn't they like to go into the centre of the earth and then they come across? Kinds of crazy things, yeah.

Ben:

Dinosaurs and stuff. Stuff.

Tom:

There's like big from what I remember, there's like, yeah, like big. I actually remember there you might be thinking of something different from what I'm thinking.

Mark:

I can't remember.

Speaker

Is.

Ben:

It the wrong with Brendan Fraser?

Tom:

No.

Mark:

Has it got Jackie Channing? Is that no journey round Earth round?

Ben:

The world in 80 days.

Tom:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I see. OK, so I've got my name of. Film wrong. OK, no.

Ben:

Was it psycho? Yeah.

Mark:

He's going to the centre of the Flat Earth.

Tom:

Yeah, that's what it was.

Ben:

I've started having Flat Earth like videos sent to me now and I'm not sure why I say this because I mocked them in last.

Mark:

Amazing. Week's episode. Yeah, they know the algorithm knows you've said the word in front of your phone.

Tom:

Frontier. It was called the core.

Mark:

Oh, the core.

Ben:

OK, that sounds like a more serious gritty like mid 2000s version of.

Tom:

Do you? Watch a trailer for the core.

Mark:

Yeah. **** yeah. I'm down.

Tom:

OK.

Speaker 8

Every 700,000 years, the world is devastated by an event of catastrophic proportions. As of today, we are 100,000 years overdue. The core of the Earth has stopped spinning. The spinning core.

Speaker

Protects us from cosmic radiation. Best brown toddler.

Speaker 8

Without it, radiation will create superstorms, microwaves will literally cook our planet.

Speaker

So.

Speaker 9

How do we fix?

Speaker 8

It we can't. What if we could?

Mark:

How do you fix it? You can't. But what if we do?

Speaker

Take a.

Speaker 8

You can't wait to go to the centre of the earth. 1000 Megatons of nuclear weapons and we. Shockwave in history.

Tom:

The plan is to go to the central.

Mark:

Are they throwing up the core of the Earth? Yeah. How is that going to work? That's why the world falls apart in 2012.

Tom:

That's the plan. I've got a great plan. Yeah, here's a good plan with nuclear ******* seven. Yeah, with multiple nuclear bombs.

Mark:

I am so up for watching that.

Ben:

I think I'd rather watch journey to the centre of the earth, right? Should we do one more? Yeah. Fight Club.

Speaker

Oh gosh, I.

Tom:

Don't know. I don't even know if I've seen Fight Club.

Speaker 9

Please, Ben.

Mark:

Oh ******* hell guys.

Ben:

Megan, you're lumping it in here like I haven't seen it. You don't know if I've seen it yet.

Mark:

Well, I can only imagine. Oh yeah, that's true. I've got a question to ask you. What famous very famous singer is in that movie midlife. OK, OK.

Ben:

He has *****. He does. I think his name's Bob, isn't?

Mark:

It I mean, I don't remember that much information. Think about it.

Tom:

Come on, Ben. It he knows the characters. Yeah, yeah.

Mark:

I'm going to.

Ben:

Say the Ben Scene Fight Club. Yeah, I have not seen Fight Club. What I have seen is a show called worst games ever. And they played the video game and that's why I know meatloafs in it. And he has *****.

Mark:

For ***** sake. I felt like that was bulletproof.

Ben:

Right. Do you guys have one that? Want to throw at? Or we are we good with that?

Mark:

The Titanic do.

Ben:

You think? OK, do you think I've seen Titanic?

Tom:

Everyone seen Titanic? Oh, well, yeah, I thought.

Mark:

We've said that about several films.

Tom:

I say yes, Ben has seen it.

Mark:

Mark, I say no, Ben has not.

Ben:

Seen it, I did watch Titanic **** when I was younger, but I also did watch it very recently.

Tom:

Oh, we got. Can't get enough box of tissues.

Ben:

And it's it's actually it is a good. Film. I think it's a good film. Yeah. Yeah. ******* lot.

Tom:

I enjoyed it a. So you could mop himself up.

Mark:

After the sketch scene.

Tom:

There you got tired. He got tired.

Mark:

Because I was too sore.

Ben:

Hey, I mean, it did probably actually take me about 3 or 4 days to watch it, because you're going so hard. Yeah. No, it's it's it's, it's about 3 hours long. That film. It, yeah.

Mark:

Is I think there was a time where it was the longest of movies. I could be factually incorrectness.

Tom:

What is the number? I swear there's a movie. I've swear. I've been to the movies before and it's been such a long movie that it's been.

Mark:

That might have been for like in what Infinity War and end game?

Tom:

I want to say that was like Avatar or something.

Mark:

Maybe, maybe.

Ben:

Logistics is the longest movie ever made, with a runtime of 857 hours or 35 days and 17 hours. That's ridiculous. It's a slow motion documentary that follows the journey.

Mark:

Of.

Ben:

Are we watching? I was trying to read the word, but it it follows the journey of a pedometer from its manufacturing in China to its cell in Stockholm.

Mark:

Now.

Speaker

For 30 years.

Mark:

Do you want? To watch that.

Ben:

No 835 1/2 full days, almost almost 36 full days.

Mark:

And it's called logistics. How about?

Ben:

Watching a pedometer be made?

Mark:

The. We hope you enjoyed the episode. If you have any thoughts or collections or you just want to get in touch or send us an opening question, we'd really appreciate those and just reach out to us on our Instagram. That's wonderfully ill informed. That's all one word. Or you can Scroll down and make Ben read it out via a leaving a comment on Sparta Fire.

Tom:

Yeah, please do send us opening questions because otherwise we have to keep, like, yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The hope was that we would have someone sending more questions, but instead we get would you rather be sneezed on or be sneezed on?

Mark:

Question I mean, yeah.

Ben:

Can I can I make a? I'm not able to send in opening questions because I. I am. But I'm not going to but.

Tom:

I thought I thought there's a big reveal. Then I thought you gonna say because I am flash Gordon.

Speaker 8

Under. Flash mode in.

Mark:

Can I can I make a?

Ben:

Request that the next weeks 1 mark is not a. You rather.

Mark:

Of course you can request that you can send it to me on WhatsApp and I'll think. About it this.

Tom:

Is just post a question on the Spotify.

Mark:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Question on Spotify or anywhere and we'd appreciate it. I might ask Brandon to do it because next week Brandon Ruvals returning to the podcast, *************.

Ben:

Pending Internet connectivity issues.

Mark:

1st. It might be a bit stuttery. We could give it a *** ****.

Tom:

Go. Yeah. Ben, is there any Spotify comments?

Ben:

We we have no comments, no nothing this time, yeah.

Tom:

Oh wow, don't forget to subscribe. Rate or leave a review on whatever podcast platform you're listening on. It will help us grow and ensure that more wonderfully ill informed individuals like yourself can discover our show.

Ben:

Potential terrible news. Logistics is in Swedish, so we don't understand what's going on and I don't know if I could. I could pay attention to subtitles for 36 days.

Speaker

Ah.

Tom:

Yeah, then can't read.

Ben:

And let's now prove that. You can find links to everything we've talked about this weeks episode in the show notes.

Mark:

Thank you for listening.

Ben:

See you next week when maybe some of us have learned how to read goodbye.

Tom:

Probably not though. But yeah, I mean you we probably, yes, you will see us next week, but yeah, like to read any writers so.

Mark:

No. Not.

Tom:

Don't. It clarified that just in case you think there's not. To. There is definitely going to be another episode anyway. Moving on. Bye bye.

Mark:

I.

The Nameless Wonder:

They're so wonderfully ill informed.